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Gawn and Oliver take a bow. Brayshaw and Hogan ok. The rest, well, many passengers I thought. Fritsch did well when moved back in defence also

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:01, Wiseblood said:

    Why?  That seems like a strange thing to focus on after an 8 goal win.

    the puppys are [censored] week we we play a real team next week and we need whelan and grinter types to win the big games the great teams had them

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:01, Wiseblood said:

    Why?  That seems like a strange thing to focus on after an 8 goal win.

    against a [censored] weak bunch of rabble

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      On 14/07/2018 at 09:16, DemonOX said:

    Maxy was unbelievable. 

    If he doesn’t win the Brownlow there is something wrong. 

    There will be many things wrong 

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    Hmm so we won after going to Darwin!

    I have been saving for years that it is not the trip to Darwin that matters but the quality of the players. 

    Blaming going to Darwin for our poor performances was always BS.

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    It's also great to see Hogan hit 40 goals for the season, and he's currently second on the goal kicking table (with Buddy one goal behind with a game to play).

    His best haul was 44 back in 2015 and he's in with a big chance of getting at least 60 goals before the season is over.  He and Tom worked superbly together today and you can see their synergy building by the week.

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:11, Wiseblood said:

    It's also great to see Hogan hit 40 goals for the season, and he's currently second on the goal kicking table (with Buddy one goal behind with a game to play).

    His best haul was 44 back in 2015 and he's in with a big chance of getting at least 60 goals before the season is over.  He and Tom worked superbly together today and you can see their synergy building by the week.

    best wingman in the comp h ha ha

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    Well that was an unusual game and one that might puzzle those analysts who figure they’ve got our game worked out.

    Statistically, we had less disposals, less contested possessions, less clearances, less tackles and less inside 50s. These are areas where, during this season, we are usually in front of our opposition and yet today, we won by 50 points.

    Anyone have an explanation?

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:19, Whispering_Jack said:

    Well that was an unusual game and one that might puzzle those analysts who figure they’ve got our game worked out.

    Statistically, we had less disposals, less contested possessions, less clearances, less tackles and less inside 50s. These are areas where, during this season, we are usually in front of our opposition and yet today, we won by 50 points.

    Anyone have an explanation?

    Yep. I couldn’t make it to the game today and I am the curse of Norm (this year).

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:19, Whispering_Jack said:

    Well that was an unusual game and one that might puzzle those analysts who figure they’ve got our game worked out.

    Statistically, we had less disposals, less contested possessions, less clearances, less tackles and less inside 50s. These are areas where, during this season, we are usually in front of our opposition and yet today, we won by 50 points.

    Anyone have an explanation?

    To be perfectly honest WJ " I don't give a dam" 

    we won by 50 points at the G means a great night and a happy weekend.

    about to pour a single malt.

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    Quite brave of Goodwin to chuck JKH back when he was putrid, worked OK, obvious stage fright in first half but 9 tackles may keep him in. Also Fritsch to defence was brilliant and Harmes to tag also worked well. Goodwin coached better today, it was just very poor ball use that stopped us winning by a lot more.

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:10, old dee said:

    Hmm so we won after going to Darwin!

    I have been saving for years that it is not the trip to Darwin that matters but the quality of the players. 

    Blaming going to Darwin for our poor performances was always BS.

    I doubt one win proves your point.  There are many factors why we lose games, including the ones after Darwin and including the fact that we are often crap.  But it's drawing a long bow to effectively say that Darwin has negligible effect.  I bet the coaches would prefer we didn't have to play there.

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:19, Whispering_Jack said:

    Well that was an unusual game and one that might puzzle those analysts who figure they’ve got our game worked out.

    Statistically, we had less disposals, less contested possessions, less clearances, less tackles and less inside 50s. These are areas where, during this season, we are usually in front of our opposition and yet today, we won by 50 points.

    Anyone have an explanation?

    To me the game was won on the outside.  The first half they won the uncontested ball by a big margin indicating they were able to find space for low pressure possessions, setting up ball movement. We won it in the second half as we were able to find space. 

    Imo this was about positioning at stoppages. We won the centre clearances all day when the was less congestion and we could get the ball outside.  They won the stoppage clearances convincingly by putting extra numbers in, getting in our way, pressuring our first reciever and stopping us getting the ball out.

     

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:04, old dee said:

    I know it was a terrible time for a game neither afternoon nor night and freezing as well. But two Melbourne based teams and only 30 000 in attendance. 

    Might just be that Dees supports don't yet believe.

    It’s funny because at the game it looked more like 40k, was a little surprised when I saw the 30k flash up on the screen. Sounded like 20k though, even with me going off my chops in the first half

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:27, wizardinoz said:

    Thought Lewis was pretty good tonight but Vince and his turnovers is a real worry.

    Lewis had a few turnovers too wiz. Both as bad as each other imo. 

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:19, Whispering_Jack said:

    Well that was an unusual game and one that might puzzle those analysts who figure they’ve got our game worked out.

    Statistically, we had less disposals, less contested possessions, less clearances, less tackles and less inside 50s. These are areas where, during this season, we are usually in front of our opposition and yet today, we won by 50 points.

    Anyone have an explanation?

    No, but it seemed to this untrained observer that we kicked more, were more direct and had less ring-a-rosy handballs than usual. Still played like millionaires in the first two quarters though ...

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:19, Whispering_Jack said:

    Well that was an unusual game and one that might puzzle those analysts who figure they’ve got our game worked out.

    Statistically, we had less disposals, less contested possessions, less clearances, less tackles and less inside 50s. These are areas where, during this season, we are usually in front of our opposition and yet today, we won by 50 points.

    Anyone have an explanation?

    Stats are rubbish ?

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    Would swap Josh Kelly for Salem and Tyson

    that finish would lift us into second

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    Brayshaw is incredible.  Hes finding the ball as easily as Oliver does and their centre clearance work (with a big help from Max) was sublime.

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:37, beelzebub said:

    Stats are rubbish ?

    Yes, that’s what many people say but the pattern of our game was so different in the second half that I thought it was something to consider given that we have six games to go and the majority of those are against other finals contenders. 

    If our coaches can get us to improve on where we’ve been so far this year by just a small percentage it might be the difference between making top four or not making the finals again.

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      On 14/07/2018 at 09:54, DemonOX said:

    Browny on Fox made a very good point in that when we go is50 we need to make more of our opportunities if we are going to compete against the top teams and he said it when we stuffed certain goals up which I think was in the last quarter. 

    Good to see Browny has his finger right on the pulse of our season in rnd 16... 

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      On 14/07/2018 at 10:19, Whispering_Jack said:

    Well that was an unusual game and one that might puzzle those analysts who figure they’ve got our game worked out.

    Statistically, we had less disposals, less contested possessions, less clearances, less tackles and less inside 50s. These are areas where, during this season, we are usually in front of our opposition and yet today, we won by 50 points.

    Anyone have an explanation?

    Big Max and 15 minutes in the 3rd quarter of absolute centre square dominance, taps straight onto the chests of Clarrie and Angus running in the clear for direct entries into our forward 50 and 3 goals in 5 or 6 minutes then two more after that from similar centre breaks. That 15 minutes broke the game open for us, very 1998 Jeff White to Todd Viney super play I thought. 

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