8 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Does AFL.com.au even football? 

Someone convice me how he’d be a good fit because that article hasn’t at all. 

He kick ball good.

Priority 1. Gaff

priority 2. Mackay

distant 3rd. Murphy 

need to get free agent due to lack of draft picks

We already have a Murphy type player in Tyson and he is struggling to retain a senior spot.

We need a slippery silky outsider who can also kick a goal or two on the run from 50ish.

Thanks but no thanks.

2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Priority 1. Gaff

priority 2. Mackay

distant 3rd. Murphy 

need to get free agent due to lack of draft picks

Get out! He is the type of player we have been trying to eradicate from our list.

6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Priority 1. Gaff

priority 2. Mackay

distant 3rd. Murphy 

need to get free agent due to lack of draft picks

No bloody way to Mackay, nor Murphy

7 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

I dont think of Murphy as a pure inside mid. I think he is quite rounded. 

I dont think we hunt him, but if we miss out on gaff and he was quite cheap I wouldn't say no.

I don't see either of those two as Pure-Inside Mids,,, and that's what we need;,,, well rounded Mids to compliment our tough on-ballers.

Tyson was hopefully to be this, but hasn't.

This is why I say, of these two, Murphy or Sloane.  I would think the obvious choice would be Sloane.

Add Gaff into this equation, and I still think Sloane.  Because with Sloane we have that well rounded Mid who will give us enough time to grow a young kid from the draft to become his successor.

I just don't think Gaff is quick enough, for what he will cost us.

 

IF we can only take one more top talent at present, with our cap space,  I'd rather Sloane, or De Goey. 

Of these two, I would prefer De Goey.

7 hours ago, Dr.D said:

I'm sorry but Gaff is not quick. if you ask any WCE supporters they wanted him dropped last season. He was pathetic. It's often the case that the club he is playing at know him the best. Having a stellar season but I saw too much of him last season to change my mind. 

Rich mans ANB

6 hours ago, DV8 said:

I don't see either of those two as Pure-Inside Mids,,, and that's what we need;,,, well rounded Mids to compliment our tough on-ballers.

Tyson was hopefully to be this, but hasn't.

This is why I say, of these two, Murphy or Sloane.  I would think the obvious choice would be Sloane.

Add Gaff into this equation, and I still think Sloane.  Because with Sloane we have that well rounded Mid who will give us enough time to grow a young kid from the draft to become his successor.

I just don't think Gaff is quick enough, for what he will cost us.

 

IF we can only take one more top talent at present, with our cap space,  I'd rather Sloane, or De Goey. 

Of these two, I would prefer De Goey.

Rich mans ANB

Sloane wint come to us I dont think. I would've had him over murphy.

Gaff only costs money as he is a free agent.

If Gaff wasn’t available and Marc was deemed ready to go by our medical staff, in a heartbeat. He still covers the ground pretty well (better than our other plus 30’s in Bernie and Jordan) and is a good user on the footy. I’m assuming he would come in at an affordable price and at Bernie’s expense.

A fit Murphy could definitely help us.

If he's fit and cheap yes please 

maybe carrrrrrlton can pay his wage or a portion thereof a la the watts manoeuvre 

The concept makes sense. Put him on a wing or high half forward and he would offer great quality, run and experience. Just like Wells has at Collingwood, Deledio at Giants and Stevie J before him....

3 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

The concept makes sense. Put him on a wing or high half forward and he would offer great quality, run and experience. Just like Wells has at Collingwood, Deledio at Giants and Stevie J before him....

They have had some good moments, but have also spent more time on the injury list than on the field.  The reason I've liked the moves for Cross, Vince, Lewis etc has been because they are durable players who are rarely (touch wood) injured.  Murphy has a history of getting himself injured and I fail to see that changing at his age.

I get the point you're making, especially experience, but if we want to go in that direction again I think we can find someone more durable than Marc Murphy.

6 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

They have had some good moments, but have also spent more time on the injury list than on the field.  The reason I've liked the moves for Cross, Vince, Lewis etc has been because they are durable players who are rarely (touch wood) injured.  Murphy has a history of getting himself injured and I fail to see that changing at his age.

I get the point you're making, especially experience, but if we want to go in that direction again I think we can find someone more durable than Marc Murphy.

Sorry WB I probably should have been clearer with my sarcasm. Outside mature players at that age will have a significant risk of injury.

6 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Sloane wint come to us I dont think. I would've had him over murphy.

Gaff only costs money as he is a free agent.

why do you think Sloane wouldn't come to us?

 

12 hours ago, DV8 said:

 

IF we can only take one more top talent at present, with our cap space,  I'd rather Sloane, or De Goey. 

Of these two, I would prefer De Goey.

 

 

Don't see the point in discussing players we have NO hope of getting.

They would burn down the Pies training centre if he left.

22 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

I"ve been watching Gaff, doing a bit more inside work out of necessity, but whole team is playing well

Went missing last couple of years when it was tough going, he is a downhill skier

Normal wettin of pants on here when a player gets a bit of media attention 

What's wrong with an outside running downhill skier in a potentially top 4 team?

21 hours ago, DV8 said:

I hear the Lions need mature players. and leaders.

So, of the mature inside Mids in free agency, would you have Murphy first, or Sloane ?

LOL if you think Sloane is coming to us.

And you're kidding yourself if you don't think we need mature players and leaders. 

Vince and Lewis are both on their last legs so we'll at least need to replace them from a leadership perspective.

18 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

I have an opinion on players, not a fan of Gaff, if we sign him,  hope not, will support him like I do all MFC players.

Contrary to popular belief, don't gush at players, just chat to them on a number of subject

Last conversation was with Nut Harmes on daschunds

As for Murphy?  would be amazed if we even asked

@dazzledavey36 Chunk liked the video, so an opinion of a faux tough guy doesn't really matter

 

Oh mate, please stop embarrassing yourself! It's cringeworthy.

19 hours ago, Biffen said:

I'd prefer R.P.MacMurphy.

pre-op, presumably?

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Don't see the point in discussing players we have NO hope of getting.

They would burn down the Pies training centre if he left.

Of course we have a chance Red.

It depends on our desire to do it.  We need more speed with the run, than just plain endurance run and carry.   Run and carry will not bust open tight finals games.

That takes x factor , speed and pinpoint kicking.

 

I sense the real issue why many here don't want to discuss this, is because it means further trades, possibly of players they are emotionally invested in.  If we are to be ruthless, we can't let these things get in our way to getting to the Grand Final, and winning the darn thing, instead of getting belted in them.

1 hour ago, Undeeterred said:

What's wrong with an outside running downhill skier in a potentially top 4 team?

Because they don't fire-up, when needed.

They can't do the magic

- - - - - - - -

What we needed this time last year can change, from that time, to now...  and what we need going forward, is not so much that gut-run, which was so important to us 12 months ago,   But rather, midfield speed, and x factor. 

Our power players like Petracca, are not quick across the ground.  And don't have that much X factor, with the ball in their hands.

We have unearthed ANB, and Harmes is emerging as gut runners.  I think Stretch may also add to this equation?

 

We need that point of difference, who can create from inside the Mids setup.   And when resting at half-forward, as well.

We are a little bit vanilla in our inside midfield group rotations, apart from our power contested winning.

Edited June 16, 20186 yr by DV8

1 hour ago, Undeeterred said:

LOL if you think Sloane is coming to us.

And you're kidding yourself if you don't think we need mature players and leaders. 

Vince and Lewis are both on their last legs so we'll at least need to replace them from a leadership perspective.

 I do very much think we need mature midfield players.  eg Sloane.  and I'm not kidding myself. or you.

Shiel, another I would be chatting to strongly, as the Giants tumble down that bean-stalk.

 

Vince and Lewis will in my mind, finish this year.

I would pay Lewis out, and rookie him. To play as assistant coach at Casey.  We can then call on him next year, IF required.

 

I'd be cashing in all salary cap space possible, this year, to use on a gun.  no, not Gaff...   good player, but not a gun.

38 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Of course we have a chance Red.

It depends on our desire to do it.  We need more speed with the run, than just plain endurance run and carry.   Run and carry will not bust open tight finals games.

That takes x factor , speed and pinpoint kicking.

 

I sense the real issue why many here don't want to discuss this, is because it means further trades, possibly of players they are emotionally invested in.  If we are to be ruthless, we can't let these things get in our way to getting to the Grand Final, and winning the darn thing, instead of getting belted in them.

De Goey isn't going anywhere, that is my point. The Pies will give him a fat contract and he will stay.

1 hour ago, Undeeterred said:

Oh mate, please stop embarrassing yourself! It's cringeworthy.

Embarrassing myself on here, what with all the competition?

Please, add to the topic

Gaff No, Murphy No

19 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Priority 1. Gaff

That should be our only priority.

The people who want Murphy are out of their minds, we are not a retirement village.