The O 39 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, ProDee said: He's really torn. He's happy to stay at West Coast, but is under significant family pressure to come home. Connors comment was that if he stays his family may be lukewarm towards him for a month, but they'll get over it. I suspect he'll come back and it will most certainly be to North, but it's not an easy decision for him. I expect that he will announce his decision early next week. Andrew had another meeting with North last night to tick of the remaining boxes before he decides which way he goes (with the meeting I gather being held to advise North of his decision one way or the other). 1 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, ProDee said: He's really torn. He's happy to stay at West Coast, but is under significant family pressure to come home. Connors comment was that if he stays his family may be lukewarm towards him for a month, but they'll get over it. I suspect he'll come back and it will most certainly be to North, but it's not an easy decision for him. It’s been reported that he has ‘supposedly’ informed his teammates that he’s chosen to leave and head to North. If that was fact, by now I would’ve thought a bunch of drunken loose lipped Eagles players could’ve potentially spilt the beans to friends, family or even media. Footy news travels fast in this two-team town and for there still to be no definitive confirmation makes me wonder. Even his managers colleague hesitated when last interviewed about who it was down to. I think it’s reasonable for those who believe there’s still something going on to keep the flame lit just as much as those who believe it’s a done deal with North want to extinguish the flame. This late eagles interest in Hogan definitely throws a cat amongst the pigeons. Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, McQueen said: It’s been reported that he has ‘supposedly’ informed his teammates that he’s chosen to leave and head to North. If that was fact, by now I would’ve thought a bunch of drunken loose lipped Eagles players could’ve potentially spilt the beans to friends, family or even media. Footy news travels fast in this two-team town and for there still to be no definitive confirmation makes me wonder. Even his managers colleague hesitated when last interviewed about who it was down to. I think it’s reasonable for those who believe there’s still something going on to keep the flame lit just as much as those who believe it’s a done deal with North want to extinguish the flame. This late eagles interest in Hogan definitely throws a cat amongst the pigeons. Melbourne haven't been in the hunt for weeks. I reported what his manager said, but for some reason people want to hold on to ill-considered hope that is predicated by nothing more than their imagination. 2 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, ProDee said: Melbourne haven't been in the hunt for weeks. I reported what his manager said, but for some reason people want to hold on to ill-considered hope that is predicated by nothing more than their imagination. With respect, that’s old news. If list managers just decided to rest on their laurels and not look at any other machinations as they unfolded, I’d be very surprised. The Eagles interest in Hogan is one such machination that will impact Gaff. Gotta keep an open mind, Pro. 1 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, McQueen said: With respect, that’s old news. If list managers just decided to rest on their laurels and not look at any other machinations as they unfolded, I’d be very surprised. The Eagles interest in Hogan is one such machination that will impact Gaff. Gotta keep an open mind, Pro. His manager stated "he won't be going to Melbourne because he doesn't like the role they have in mind for him". It's cut and dried - and over. But by all means, hang on to whatever you want to. Quote
ManDee 7,394 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, ProDee said: His manager stated "he won't be going to Melbourne because he doesn't like the role they have in mind for him". It's cut and dried - and over. But by all means, hang on to whatever you want to. Reminds me of Howe going to Collingwood to play in the forward line. Do players really believe what they are told at interview? Maybe we are too honest. Mr Gaff where would you like to play and how much training would you like to do? Oh Mr Gaff you'll fit right in here, sign on the dotted line. 1 Quote
daisycutter 30,004 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, ManDee said: Reminds me of Howe going to Collingwood to play in the forward line. Do players really believe what they are told at interview? Maybe we are too honest. Mr Gaff where would you like to play and how much training would you like to do? Oh Mr Gaff you'll fit right in here, sign on the dotted line. yeah, like he be unhappy to play a starring role in a premiership Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 46 minutes ago, ProDee said: His manager stated "he won't be going to Melbourne because he doesn't like the role they have in mind for him". It's cut and dried - and over. But by all means, hang on to whatever you want to. I can’t believe his manager either for that matter. Honestly, "he won't be going to Melbourne because he doesn't like the role they have in mind for him" sounds like a flimsy argument to begin with. 1 Quote
Slartibartfast 18,107 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, McQueen said: I can’t believe his manager either for that matter. Honestly, "he won't be going to Melbourne because he doesn't like the role they have in mind for him" sounds like a flimsy argument to begin with. 1 Well you can think that but it's exactly what I've heard from a completely independent and totally reliable source. It's very disappointing but it is what it is. 3 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, McQueen said: I can’t believe his manager either for that matter. Honestly, "he won't be going to Melbourne because he doesn't like the role they have in mind for him" sounds like a flimsy argument to begin with. Yeah, what would he know. 1 Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, McQueen said: I can’t believe his manager either for that matter. Honestly, "he won't be going to Melbourne because he doesn't like the role they have in mind for him" sounds like a flimsy argument to begin with. Old jungle saying: Fires need oxygen to burn. Edited October 4, 2018 by Superunknown Quote
Deemania since 56 6,804 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 17 hours ago, FarNorthernD said: This has got me completely stuffed. Surely you play footy for the success? If you are a Gaff standard player then you will have a choice of good clubs whose lists are primed for success. If it comes down to the dollars then pick the one who has the most room in their cap. I get if you are a Tyson or Kent grade player then your options will be limited, fair enough you have fewer choices and go where you can. For Gaff, however, he has actively chosen a Club that plays predominantly in Tassie or at Etihad. They have an average list and a crap jumper (admittedly I probably place more importance on this than he does) and he will rarely play in front of large crowds (think of all the times our players have mentioned when interviewed the 90,000+ crowds - the joy in Harmesy voice when talking about getting stuck into Selwood on the Members wing in the elinination final). Gaff can forget about all that. Most importantly though can anyone see Nth challenging for a flag in the near future? To me it's madness that he has chosen them Maybe Gaff has a good deal to live with since the 'incident' of this year. Maybe Gaff is realising that footy, for him, just ain't the driving life force it was previously and that his next few seasons are going to be a history that he does not wish to live with the world recalling his brain snap within that 'incident'. The bigger the pay cheque in the next few seasons, the earlier he can depart and perhaps, get on in life with other domains of beyond football pursuits, with the supporting remuneration cavalcade convincingly underpinning such choices. Going to North would otherwise have its questionable merits. Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said: Well you can think that but it's exactly what I've heard from a completely independent and totally reliable source. It's very disappointing but it is what it is. Well that's fine by me. Wouldn't want a non team player lol. Happy for Nuff to have their gaffe Edited October 4, 2018 by beelzebub Quote
Deemania since 56 6,804 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, McQueen said: I can’t believe his manager either for that matter. Honestly, "he won't be going to Melbourne because he doesn't like the role they have in mind for him" sounds like a flimsy argument to begin with. Is his manager steering him to accept only the highest offer? It would - even at the smallest existing numerators - mean a considerably increased bonus for that manager's hip pocket, and I feel that this can occur in all 3rd party interactions. 1 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, ProDee said: Yeah, what would he know. I’m hanging on as much as possible. ? Quote
Clintosaurus 7,953 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, ProDee said: His manager stated "he won't be going to Melbourne because he doesn't like the role they have in mind for him". It's cut and dried - and over. But by all means, hang on to whatever you want to. Wants to play inside mid I think. Something we don't need more of, but oddly North have quite a few as well. Quote
DV8 2,271 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 16 hours ago, ManDee said: Gaff still not decided according to AFL.com 7:35pm Hogan to Eagles ??? Eagles 2018 1st Rnd and future 2019 1st Rnd picks to Melbourne ??? Gaff RFA to Melbourne, unencumbered ??? Could this play-out ? Quote
Pennant St Dee 13,431 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 3 hours ago, McQueen said: It’s now Thursday and he hasn’t made a call. If it was as simple as either North or the Eagles, I reckon he’d announced it by now. Theres still something going on. There is Meth Coasts B&F is this weekend Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said: There is Meth Coasts B&F is this weekend Free Agency opens tomorrow so by my understanding any call must be made by midnight tonight AEST. 1 Quote
DV8 2,271 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Superunknown said: Maybe he is just agonising over a very important decision Well, that makes two players, agonising over similar deecisions ? Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 It's Over https://g.co/kgs/7Mp8ab Quote
Nasher 33,651 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said: Is his manager steering him to accept only the highest offer? It would - even at the smallest existing numerators - mean a considerably increased bonus for that manager's hip pocket, and I feel that this can occur in all 3rd party interactions. Yes, of course his agent is going to steer him towards the money, that’s how the manager’s living is derived. Gaff is a grown adult though and can make his own choice. I recently took the lower of two offers on a property I sold because I preferred the terms, in spite of the estate agent’s push to take the larger offer. 2 Quote
Lord John 26 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Black and White Night was over on Grand Final.....Blue and Red night hasn't reached midnight yet (I'm hoping) Quote
old55 23,860 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 West Coast have up until Monday 15 October to match any RFA offer and force a trade: Friday, 5 October: Restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period starts. Monday, 8 October 10am: NAB AFL Trade Period starts. Friday, 12 October 5pm: Close of restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period. Monday, 15 October 2pm: AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends. There's time for plenty of water to flow under this bridge. 1 Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Said this to a WCE fan that thinks Gaff for Hogan is fair. "If we don't want to give you Hogan, then you're left with whatever you get for Gaff from the NM trade either a compo pick, or what Nm can trade you if you match. Therefore our bargaining chip is that all we have to do is give you what NM can comparatively give you. I think Hogan satisfies that end already. Now you need to give us a better offer than what Freo will have to give, to make us want to give you Hogan. We're asking two top 10 picks. Gaff may be a high quality player, but as an RFA he doesn't really come with that much value as you're not exactly going to get that much from NM if you match. So as we're ontrading a top 10 pick for Steven May in the Freo deal. What we need are picks from you that can get us Steven May. If we get Gaff + May then that beats Freo's Pick 10 & S. May. That will make us want to come on board and get Hogan to WCE. Free agency sucks for the clubs, but thats what the players association won." Edited October 4, 2018 by johndemonic Quote
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