Post Match Discussion - Round 5

[Cards13 9,117]

3 hours ago, CityDee said:

From  a mate who watches tiges every week they bring it to ground 8 out of 10 times crashing the contest in the air .  Regardless  if its the smallest player competing . They work to get front of the pack and back because they know its coming.

Harmes Brayshaw and a host of players were not competitive in the air Tuesday  night . Its as if only our talls are marking or competent options and we have that mindset .

its time to drill down and fix this . 

 

 

Seems counterintuitive, Tigs crash the packs and bring ball to ground. X Melb players were not competing in the air. Yet Tigs had options galore at ground level running on to the ball? Heaps of posters ( me included) saying Dees have way to many who fly for same ball. Happened often Tuesday = tigs goal.

[dimmy 1,114]

9 hours ago, Deebymistake said:

I went to the game Tuesday night & just watched the replay of the 1st quarter.  I am no expert at footy but the weakest links in the first quarter to me looked to be Vince, Tyson, Harmes, Salem & Brayshaw.  

I am a Brayshaw fan and would agree with you in relation to the first 1/4. However he improved a lot during the night. I feel he still does not seem to have a role. At many stoppages he seemed to be about 10m outside the stoppage, but Gawny did little tap downs and the ball did not come out. Honestly i think the worst role at MFC over the last couple of years has been as an outside mid. Our clearance work seems to be see ball get ball, hooray punt. It has crucified Watts, limited Salem and had put Brayshaw in no mans land.

I thought the biggest issues with MFC last Tuesday was their ball handling whereas Richmond were very clean and spread from stoppages/intercepts very well .

The third quarter was probably the most intense football played for the year, but we could not keep it up. Fitness/Maturity could be reasons ???

Positives : OMac continues to improve because he has been allowed to develop in his defined role.

                   Weiderman was a real positive I thought. Matured a lot

                   I have been critical of Lever and Melksham but both were vast improvements as was Hunt's attack.

I stiil live in hope !!!

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

6 hours ago, beelzebub said:

What game were you watching ?

On the ropes ? We were 3 goals down. Until Milkshakes snag we hadn't goaled for 20 mins.

We see things very differently Saty

Cheers

True I don't spend the game looking for mistakes or compiling list of NQR players, Hardwick said same thing in one interview, perhaps he was watching different game as well, I did say we couldn't land the blow

[CityDee 738]

On 4/26/2018 at 9:56 PM, Cards13 said:

Seems counterintuitive, Tigs crash the packs and bring ball to ground. X Melb players were not competing in the air. Yet Tigs had options galore at ground level running on to the ball? Heaps of posters ( me included) saying Dees have way to many who fly for same ball. Happened often Tuesday = tigs goal.

Thats right it only takes one player to bring it to ground the others are their ready to pounce. 

[beelzebub 22,225]

On 4/26/2018 at 11:08 PM, Satyriconhome said:

True I don't spend the game looking for mistakes or compiling list of NQR players, Hardwick said same thing in one interview, perhaps he was watching different game as well, I did say we couldn't land the blow

You said we had them on the ropes at 3/4 time

We were LOSING 

obviously we see things differently

I CAN read a Scoreboard !

[Stretch Johnson 2,568]

On 4/26/2018 at 11:08 PM, Satyriconhome said:

True I don't spend the game looking for mistakes or compiling list of NQR players, Hardwick said same thing in one interview, perhaps he was watching different game as well, I did say we couldn't land the blow

Some people like analysing the game. 

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

48 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Some people like analysing the game. 

You meant over analysing the game

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

You said we had them on the ropes at 3/4 time

We were LOSING 

obviously we see things differently

I CAN read a Scoreboard !

I also said we couldn't land the killer blow, we started the 4th well and then fell over, I thought it was going to go the way of the Geelong game, I was wrong

[Stretch Johnson 2,568]

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

You meant over analysing the game

No just analysing it objectively without being sycophantic.

It beats posting falsities.

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

4 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

No just analysing it objectively without being sycophantic.

It beats posting falsities.

Oh mean we're [censored], the coach is crap, the players are spuds etc etc, I post opinions that may or may not be correct, doest matter rather than other posters infallibility 

Edited April 28, 2018 by Satyriconhome

[dazzledavey36 48,762]

On 4/26/2018 at 9:42 PM, jnrmac said:

Well done to OMcD. Very interesting no votes for Gawn despite his dominance. Hopefully that indicates to him what he and his mids must do to be effective.....

And Martin 1 vote? Please....

Gawn? Anyone can dominate the hitouts against Nankervis, but Gawn was absolute shithouse with his hitouts always going down a tiger throat. I lost count the amount of times he and Martin made connection st the stoppages. 

[Wells 11 4,744]

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Gawn? Anyone can dominate the hitouts against Nankervis, but Gawn was absolute shithouse with his hitouts always going down a tiger throat. I lost count the amount of times he and Martin made connection st the stoppages. 

Somehow I doubt its just Gawns doing Dazzle. Its the way we are setting up in the middle and at stoppages. Something large is really not gelling. Jones, Petracca and Oliver are certainly good enough to win the ball. So either Maxxy IS hitting the ball to the wrong places OR the places we're asking him to hit it arent working/ are too obvious. Or a bit of both. I remember when Sandllands started breaking out with Freo and they had the same problem. The good thing is its SUCH an obvious problem Im sure the coaches are all over it. Its one of the big things Im looking forward to today to see if I can spot any changes in the set up.