39 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

The biggest stat that would suggest he didn't have a good day was accuracy.  His other stats, I'd imagine, would be exactly what Goodwin is looking for in him.

As I said, it'll be interesting to see what Goody rates higher, but I'm expecting that Bugg will play this week.

I too expect Bugg to play. Did he stuff up his opportunities? yes. But he is always heavily involved in our forward entries as a pest who draws free kicks, an opportunist crumber or makes a genuine contest in the air for his smaller size. I definitely can't say the same of Melksham. I hope he gets replaced with Hannan who can have a greater impact up forwards

This bloke will not be dropped. Aside from being one of Goody's pets, we need his arrogance as per the above picture taken in Anzac Eve V2

Edited April 17, 20186 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

We'll win on Tuesday. Just checked the forecast and the poor darlings won't have to suffer in the drizzle like last week.

Tuesday 24 April

Summary

Min 16

Max 24

Partly cloudy.

Chance of any rain: 20% 

Melbourne area

Partly cloudy. Slight (20%) chance of a shower later in the day. Winds northerly 15 to 20 km/h.

1 hour ago, The Chazz said:

And, it will also be interesting to see what Goody does with Bugg this week.  On one hand, he 19 disposals, laid 6 tackles and had 4 shots on goal.  On the other hand, if you are a forward, your job is to kick goals when you get the opportunity, which he had multiple opportunities and failed.

Run him with Dusty as punishment.  1 quarter for every goal missed!

Lewis out, Tyson in.

Bugg out, Stretch in.

Frost out, Hunt in.

I'd be tempted to play either Garlett or Petracca one out from the square and push all others to the 50 arc.

I always find it interesting that people always focus on the negatives of a player, ie they missed the shot, stuffed the kick, turned it over ect. It’s almost as if they would prefer a player who made no mistakes but in doing so did nothing in the first place. 

On that can someond explain why they would have Bugg out before Garlett or Fritsch this week.

I mean he had more shots on goal, more tackles and more score involvements than both of them. It seems like people would prefer he had 1 shot and 5 disposals like Garlett 

1 vote: Tim Smith
Saturday night’s match wasn’t made for key-forwards, but Tim Smith showed his versatility, gathering 17 disposals, laying nine tackles and spending time in the centre. Senior coach Jade Rawlings threw the 192cm tall on-ball in the third quarter in a move, which helped Casey find its groove. Smith had eight touches and kicked a crucial goal in the term, as the Demons clawed back an 18-point deficit to hit the lead by the final change.

 

Smokey?

Time people looked at Petracca ... partly to stop him watching himself on the big screen adding to his highlights package.. sorry but for me the first two outs are Trac and Lever ... go back to Casey and earn your spot ...

Why is it that Dee supporters can rationally accept the garbage served up by this team post quarter 1 on Sunday? 

Reality says this means obscurity again this year .. not enough ticker not enough footy smarts..

we don’t need to sack Goodwin just ask the basic question... earn your $500k mate or nick off...

talk about headless chickens... or a team of eunuchs..

B: WAGNER, O.MCDONALD, JETTA

HB: HIBBERD, LEVER, HUNT

C: PETRACCA, OLIVER, JONES

HF: KENT, HOGAN, NEAL-BULLEN

F: GARTLETT, WEIDEMAN, HANNAN

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, SALEM

IC: STRETCH, BRAYSHAW, FRITSCH, SPARGO

EMRG: T.SMITH

49 minutes ago, grey wolf said:

Time people looked at Petracca ... partly to stop him watching himself on the big screen adding to his highlights package.. sorry but for me the first two outs are Trac and Lever ... go back to Casey and earn your spot ...

Ridiculous call.

I reckon both Smiths are a big chance this week.

Bull will tackle all day and present, plus goody loves the flexibility he offers by going in to the middle.

And Joel has pace so can work back if we get caught out on the rebound. Plus he can play big and small.

I'm not necessarily advocating either, but it wouldn't surprise me and I wouldn't be shaking my head.

 

Edited April 17, 20186 yr by watchtheeyes

5 hours ago, The Chazz said:

The biggest stat that would suggest he didn't have a good day was accuracy.  His other stats, I'd imagine, would be exactly what Goodwin is looking for in him.

As I said, it'll be interesting to see what Goody rates higher, but I'm expecting that Bugg will play this week.

Put the stats to one side.

He was hopeless every time he got the ball or went near it.

He had 19 touches but I'd wager close to all 19 of them were turnovers or mistakes.

He can't kick, he can't handpass, and he doesn't score goals as a forward. We cannot carry him on the basis that he tackles and sometimes is "aggressive".

He is, without question, the player who most deserves to be dropped.

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

1 vote: Tim Smith
Saturday night’s match wasn’t made for key-forwards, but Tim Smith showed his versatility, gathering 17 disposals, laying nine tackles and spending time in the centre. Senior coach Jade Rawlings threw the 192cm tall on-ball in the third quarter in a move, which helped Casey find its groove. Smith had eight touches and kicked a crucial goal in the term, as the Demons clawed back an 18-point deficit to hit the lead by the final change.

 

Smokey?

How many games does he have under his belt?  I think he missed a chunk of the pre-season but I stand to be corrected on that

1 hour ago, grey wolf said:

Time people looked at Petracca ... partly to stop him watching himself on the big screen adding to his highlights package.. sorry but for me the first two outs are Trac and Lever ... go back to Casey and earn your spot ...

No way would I drop him but I do think he plays with an arrogance he is yet to earn

1 hour ago, grey wolf said:

Time people looked at Petracca ... partly to stop him watching himself on the big screen adding to his highlights package.. sorry but for me the first two outs are Trac and Lever ... go back to Casey and earn your spot ...

Thanks for your input, I’ll make sure not to read anything further from yourself. 

2 hours ago, Garbo said:

 On that can someond explain why they would have Bugg out before Garlett or Fritsch this week.

Yes - although he covers a lot of ground, is a pest and manages to find the footy in the forward line, his direct opponent is more concerned about either setting up forward play for his own team or leaving Bugg to help out other defenders with players such as Hogan. Bugg isn't damaging, even when 10 metres out from goal - I know every now and again he'll slot a couple, but he won't be taken seriously until he either kicks goals like a footballer or negates a playmaker.

7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Put the stats to one side.

He was hopeless every time he got the ball or went near it.

He had 19 touches but I'd wager close to all 19 of them were turnovers or mistakes.

He can't kick, he can't handpass, and he doesn't score goals as a forward. We cannot carry him on the basis that he tackles and sometimes is "aggressive".

He is, without question, the player who most deserves to be dropped.

DE%

Bugg 47%

Lewis 36%

Vince 46%

melksham v Roos 36%

 

just FYI 

34 minutes ago, SFebey said:

DE%

Bugg 47%

Lewis 36%

Vince 46%

melksham v Roos 36%

 

just FYI 

Well then clearly not all 19 of his touches were turnovers.

Still, DE is a useless stat. The kick which missed Garlett and therefore ruined a certain goal, for example, will be classified as "effective" because it went to a Melbourne player and not a Hawthorn player. But it was a rubbish kick. 

He's a momentum killer.

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

B: WAGNER, O.MCDONALD, J.SMITH

HB: HIBBERD, LEVER, HUNT

C: PETRACCA, OLIVER, JONES

HF: KENT, HOGAN, NEAL-BULLEN

F: GARTLETT, WEIDEMAN, HANNAN

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, SALEM

IC: STRETCH, BRAYSHAW, FRITSCH, SPARGO

EMRG: T.SMITH

J.Smith in for Jetta

Bugg 4 goals 1 vs Roos and 0 goals 6 in his other two games. The best type of pressure is scoreboard pressure.

Needs to kick 30+ at a decent conversion ratio in the magoos before he gets another look in.

Regardless of who comes into the team, can we please see at least one positional change with Lever being sent forward to play on Rance.

Jeremy McGovern aside, Rance is the premier intercept marking defender in the comp (who is also very adept as a 3rd man up to effect the spoil).

Rance will take Lever to the ball and thereby refresh Lever's acknowledged and much-heralded ability to read the play.

At the very least, Lever would hopefully be able to negate Rance's influence and thus neutralise one of Richmond's most effective play makers.

2 hours ago, grey wolf said:

Why is it that Dee supporters can rationally accept the garbage served up by this team post quarter 1 on Sunday? 

Who’s accepting it? We’re all [censored] off mate. Not much we can do but. 

I'm with Wolf, Track is built to run through packs. Let him do it.........

OUT- Lewis, Wagner, Melksham, Harmes

IN- Tyson, Hunt, Hannan, Pederson 

 

FB.   Hibberd      OMac.       Jetta

HB.  Lever.          Frost.         Hunt

C.    Tyson.         Jones.        Brayshaw

HF.  Garlett         Hogan        Kent

 F.    Fritch.         Petracca.    Hannan

Foll. Gawn, Oliver, ANB

Int- Salem, Bugg, Vince, Pederson

I would like to see Brayshaw play on Martin all night. Even when Martin goes forward. Jetta or Lever needs to stay back to help out if Martin is given an open forward 50. I prefer Jetta in this spot for his read of the play, spoiling and decision making by foot and hand.

I would like too see Lever go forward at some stage if he doesn’t have a match up or is lost structurally down back. Apparently he played as a forward before being drafted and did well there.

Gawn needs to rest forward more when Pederson in the ruck. Best to stand at the top of the goal square Max.

Jones plays on Cotchin.

Edited April 17, 20186 yr by Dee tention

10 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

1 vote: Tim Smith
Saturd tt’s not made for key-forwards, but Tim Smith showed his versatility, gathering 17 disposals, laying nine tackles and spending time in the centre. Senior coach Jade Rawlings threw the 192cm tall on-ball in the third quarter in a move, which helped Casey find its groove. Smith had eight touches and kicked a crucial goal in the term, as the Demons clawed back an 18-point deficit to hit the lead by the final change.

 

Smokey?

Im not sure he has the form/match fitness for AFL yet but wldnt mind seeing him come in for Bugg at some point.   Anzac eve might be ideal if FD thinks his his fitness / numbers are there.

Has an AFL ready body and accurate kick.  Would only need 2 to 3 inside 50 tackles, 3 or 4 score involvements and 2+ goals a game to match or better Bugg/Hannan/Fritsch/Jeffy (who i realise plays a diff role) most of the time.

But i would hate to see him come in under done.  He probably only has one more shot at AFL level so if the FD are going to roll his die the guy needs to be at the top of his VFL game and also be given a 3 to 4 game (minimum) stint in the seniors so he has a fair run at it.