8 hours ago, Elegt said:

what is?

too many smart [censored] downhill skiers who dont put  in every week 

Edited August 24, 20204 yr by Kent

7 hours ago, layzie said:

I'm all for the idea of trying Viney or Harmes up forward right now, if nothing else just to give the forward line some jumpstart. Our forward line needs to be hard to play against and I feel these moves could help there.

Viney was probably our biggest midfield warrior in the weekend trying to turn the tide - he can test forward but he is our heart and sole motivation swinging mid who never lets the score line alter his approach. You never worry about the mental fortitude of Viney, whereas gus and clarry - imo - when they chips are down, can drop their bundle. 

13 minutes ago, Stinger said:

Viney was probably our biggest midfield warrior in the weekend trying to turn the tide - he can test forward but he is our heart and sole motivation swinging mid who never lets the score line alter his approach. You never worry about the mental fortitude of Viney, whereas gus and clarry - imo - when they chips are down, can drop their bundle. 

That's true, there are often games where it feels like Viney is the only one really standing up and working through the tough periods.

26 minutes ago, layzie said:

That's true, there are often games where it feels like Viney is the only one really standing up and working through the tough periods.

I know it's not related to Spargo, but I often wonder if you can have a proper setup around stoppages with Viney there. His endeavour can't be questioned, but he will try to barge through everything in sight. There were a number of occasions on the weekend where he cleaned up or ran into his own teammates 

I hope Spargs doesn't get the scapegoat drop this weekend.

In my mind our issues from the weekend were a result of midfield pressure rather than forward.

Granted he didn't have a great game, but even the best small forwards in the game have shockers from time to time. It's a hard position to play and I want to see Goodwin stick with Pickett and Spargs as pressure smalls to build some cohesion.

Personally I want a third in there and think Bedford is the guy at the moment. We need more foot speed so if we have to sacrifice a Hannan or Fritsch so be it.

Shuffling around our bottom six players isn’t going to achieve much, I hope Spargo gets another game. Losses like we had on the weekend are the coaches and leaders. 

I beg to differ, Spargo getting an AFL game says plenty about where we are! Before everyone says , yeah but he kicked 3 the week before. Anyone can have a day out when everything goes well. ! 

Edited August 25, 20204 yr by picket fence

7 hours ago, Action Jackson said:

I hope Spargs doesn't get the scapegoat drop this weekend.

In my mind our issues from the weekend were a result of midfield pressure rather than forward.

Granted he didn't have a great game, but even the best small forwards in the game have shockers from time to time. It's a hard position to play and I want to see Goodwin stick with Pickett and Spargs as pressure smalls to build some cohesion.

Personally I want a third in there and think Bedford is the guy at the moment. We need more foot speed so if we have to sacrifice a Hannan or Fritsch so be it.

Bedford putting pressure on for one of those spots is very healthy imv.  Don't believe we need or should play all three for the sake of a medium.  May the best two small forwards keep playing in blocks of 3 to 4 matches.  They stay if they can perform to a minimum level.  If they don't or one doesn't during that block then Bedford comes in.  Rinse repeat till we find out who can really bring it and wants it. 

What i would do though is bring Harmes off HB to play more mid field time in a run  with this week to cover Steele.  Effectively replacing Sparrow.  Rivers comes in to take over Harmes' role at HB.

Viney plays more time forward.  Between Viney, Harmes, Tracc, Clarry and AVB,  we should be able to cover one of the medium forward roles of either Fritta or Melk.  To me this week that's Fritta.  Again some pressure needed.

Bit of a rocket to let them know their place isn't as secure as they may think and to work on some weaknesses, particularly the pressure side.  Also sends Melk a bit of a subtle signal as well that he needs to up the ante pressure wise inside 50.

Edited August 25, 20204 yr by Rusty Nails

Spargo is playing the role that Neal-Bullen played in 2018 - looks great getting getting on the end of a few cheap handpasses when the team wins by 10 goals, does sweet FA when the ball doesn't fall in his lap. We'll never be a decent side with players who can't win their own football consistently and can't apply a reasonable level of defensive effort. At the moment that list includes Spargo, Melksham, Hannan, PIckett and Fritsch.

1 hour ago, poita said:

Spargo is playing the role that Neal-Bullen played in 2018 - looks great getting getting on the end of a few cheap handpasses when the team wins by 10 goals, does sweet FA when the ball doesn't fall in his lap. We'll never be a decent side with players who can't win their own football consistently and can't apply a reasonable level of defensive effort. At the moment that list includes Spargo, Melksham, Hannan, PIckett and Fritsch.

Hit the nail on the head mate

16 hours ago, layzie said:

I'm all for the idea of trying Viney or Harmes up forward right now, if nothing else just to give the forward line some jumpstart. Our forward line needs to be hard to play against and I feel these moves could help there.

Another role for Harmes, no thanks he’s had enough chances and should be dropped 

Hasn’t played a decent game for 2 seasons yet seems to slip under the radar unlike Hannan Spargo Melk etc

3 hours ago, Billy said:

Another role for Harmes, no thanks he’s had enough chances and should be dropped 

Hasn’t played a decent game for 2 seasons yet seems to slip under the radar unlike Hannan Spargo Melk etc

3rd in our B & F last year but we can't read into that season too much fair enough, who should come in for him?

Edited August 25, 20204 yr by layzie

9 hours ago, picket fence said:

I beg to differ, Spargo getting an AFL game says plenty about where we are! Before everyone says , yeah but he kicked 3 the week before. Anyone can have a day out when everything goes well. ! 

Classic Downhill Skier

15 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Classic Downhill Skier

Is this the same Spargo that kicked three goals in the second term against the Pies, when the game was well and truly still up for grabs?

The same Spargo that played a key role in our finals push, by hitting the scoreboard and setting up goals when, again, the game was up for grabs?

I mean, fine, he's had some average game of footy, but downhill skier?  Give me a spell.

On 8/25/2020 at 8:34 AM, Action Jackson said:

I hope Spargs doesn't get the scapegoat drop this weekend.

In my mind our issues from the weekend were a result of midfield pressure rather than forward.

Granted he didn't have a great game, but even the best small forwards in the game have shockers from time to time. It's a hard position to play and I want to see Goodwin stick with Pickett and Spargs as pressure smalls to build some cohesion.

Personally I want a third in there and think Bedford is the guy at the moment. We need more foot speed so if we have to sacrifice a Hannan or Fritsch so be it.

If it's a choice between Hannan and Fritsch, it's gotta be Fritsch, whilst Hannan does amazing things he goes AWOL far too much and for long stretches of time.

6 minutes ago, cantstandyasam said:

If it's a choice between Hannan and Fritsch, it's gotta be Fritsch, whilst Hannan does amazing things he goes AWOL far too much and for long stretches of time.

Agreed. Fritsch's kicking has been a bit hit or miss this season, but he is a lot more consistent.