5 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

In my view there are only two logical spots for the club to have a supporters' facility, meaning a place to view the 12 Premiership cups, various other memorabilia and for member services to be offered. Either at the MCG or somewhere within the Melbourne CBD, such as within the Melbourne Town Hall or at Fed Square. The former has the attraction of being our true home; the latter has the advantage of promoting the club more broadly by providing exposure where the most people are in a location which has a logical synergy because of our name and heritage. Everywhere else is flawed. A triangle of land near Gosch's Paddock might be great for the club but it won't be of much use to supporters.

 

I would love either of the 2 options you identify LDvC if we could pull them off. The feeling I got from the AGM a couple of years ago is that inner city options have too many hurdles.

Quite frankly, I would take any suburban ground within 10kms of CBD so long as it meets the needs of the players, the admin and the supporters to be really called a "home". That means parking and convenient public transport access are not negotiables.

Having said that, even adopting a 10km radius in any direction leave us with very few options.

As for Casey, it is a good 1 hr - 1hr 20min drive from CBD in normalised traffic (neither peak nor midnight). There is absolutely no chance on earth it represents a viable long term option for Club or its members.

We really are in a pickle with this one. Meanwhile the Admin focussed Gosch's tri-angle looks like a band aid more than a solution to anything.

 And thus we remain the nomads of the AFL.

 

On 2/5/2018 at 11:25 PM, DemonAndrew said:

selfishly i would love orrong park to be the home of the dees; the club regularly hosts training nights and the like there - and as someone up thread said, as part of a marginal electorate it could be an excellent chance to get some of that sweet, sweet pork barrelling that other clubs seem to get as a given

but as it's removed from the 'city' per se i can understand why it's unlikely

Would love it as well as I am over the railway line in Rose Street. Very handy.

20 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Pretty big office space has just opened up we could use

There is a big queue waiting to move in Cards. I doubt it will stay vacant beyond the end of February.

23 minutes ago, old dee said:

There is a big queue waiting to move in Cards. I doubt it will stay vacant beyond the end of February.

How do we get a Dees tragic in power?? 

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

How do we get a Dees tragic in power?? 

I would prefer a very Rich benefactor .

Edited February 7, 20187 yr by old dee

45 minutes ago, old dee said:

I would prefer a very Rick benefactor .

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

Edited February 7, 20187 yr by old dee

Why is it that we can no longer delete a posting?

4 minutes ago, old dee said:

Why is it that we can no longer delete a posting?

i believe it will be restored by the moderators when the mfc win another premiership

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i believe it will be restored by the moderators when the mfc win another premiership

Hmm so don't hold your breath I guess is your advice dc?

6 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

There's plenty of space at Romsey.

I might even open the doors of The Manor for some special fund raising events.

 

6 hours ago, old dee said:

So the MFC have rung by now Bbo?

Well, as you would expect OD, there are certain legal formalities to be observed. I'm waiting on the post.

6 hours ago, ManDee said:

Sorry Bitter , but Mansfield is the place. Our main footy oval known as the MCG and our secondary oval is Lords. What more is needed? 

Tut Tut  Man!! What century are you living in? The MFC is an inclusive and welcoming organisation. I'm afraid Mansfield just doesn't cut it in these enlightened times.

Edited February 7, 20187 yr by Bitter but optimistic

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Well, as you would expect OD, there are certain legal formalities to be observed. I'm waiting on the post.

Tut Tut  Man!! What century are you living in? The MFC is an inclusive and welcoming organisation. I'm afraid Mansfield just doesn't cut it in these enlightened times.

Romsey is a little....too accommodating !!! 

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Romsey is a little....too accommodating !!! 

nice place for a maximum security prison though, bub 

14 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Well, as you would expect OD, there are certain legal formalities to be observed. I'm waiting on the post.

Tut Tut  Man!! What century are you living in? The MFC is an inclusive and welcoming organisation. I'm afraid Mansfield just doesn't cut it in these enlightened times.

Bitter, my understanding of Mans field is that the Man is from mansion and the field is the playing grounds adjoining the mansion. A fitting home for our beloved dees, on the other hand Rom, from roman and sey a cut of beef (italian shank) , no my good friend Mansfield it shall be.

Edited February 7, 20187 yr by ManDee

On Tuesday, February 06, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

If we won the big one I'd be happy with the MCG carpark for the celebrations.

It's as close to "home" as we can now get.

For a facility for looking at the old cups etc I don't really mind.

Perhaps we are like that other wandering tribe... destined to wander in the wilderness until shown our promised land !

Just hope I'm not like Moses and therefore destined never to set foot in such a land.

We have been wandering around with no genuine home for decades DJ.  As one of the founding members of the VFL/AFL i personally think we are deserved of something abit better than a car park.  Especially in 2018.  I doubt MCC would allow us to use the MCG grounds anyway.  So many restrictions placed on its use now. 

3 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

We have been wandering around with no genuine home for decades DJ.  As one of the founding members of the VFL/AFL i personally think we are deserved of something abit better than a car park.  Especially in 2018.  I doubt MCC would allow us to use the MCG grounds anyway.  So many restrictions placed on its use now. 

We don't "deserve" anything other than what we earn. Part of the reason we are in this position is because the old MCC (back in the 60s and 70s) believed they were better than everyone else and "deserved" special status.

4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

We don't "deserve" anything other than what we earn. Part of the reason we are in this position is because the old MCC (back in the 60s and 70s) believed they were better than everyone else and "deserved" special status.

Wonder if its possible that attitude still residues with some of our more "mature" supporters or have we knocked it out of them yet?

Article about Hawthorn's planned new facility at Dingley:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-s-10-million-dingley-boost-20180213-p4z089.html

"The Hawks have to raise tens of millions for Dingley — club sources estimate the eventual cost will be $80-$100 million — in what shapes as arguably the competition’s most ambitious fund-raising program, as they plan to make the move from Waverley Park to the much more spacious Dingley training and administrative base."  .................................

"Harris, who has been a generous donor to Hawthorn for many years and has other philanthropic interests, said he remembered the struggles the Hawks endured at the time of the thwarted merger with Melbourne and also in 2004 when they were near the bottom of the ladder and . ‘‘I never want to see that happen again.’’ Harris said it was important that Hawthorn would own the freehold at Dingley, in what was a point of difference between the Hawks and the other clubs that have leases on their facilities and training bases. ‘‘The key to this project is that Hawthorn Football Club own the freehold."

Edited February 13, 20187 yr by Diamond_Jim

On 06/02/2018 at 1:05 PM, Cards13 said:

At times the parking isn't too bad along the river, just over the footbridge to Gosch's. Otherwise yes parking is a drainer, but the Pies have the same issue just up the road. You'll never please everyone unfortunately, at least if we have roots somewhere, hopefully, people will come.

I agree Cards. I think they could make the triangle there work. There could always be a footbridge over punt road of course, or even a tunnel. These things are not impossible. I also agree about parking. Whenever I go to training I have no problem parking over the Anderson Street bridge opposite the Gardens. We also should get the railways to leave the gate opposite Gosch’s paddock from Richmond Station permanently opened. There are more than adequate public transport links by train and tram. As a matter of public policy, we are getting close to banning private cars in the city anyway - or at least a congestion charge (or we should be). Part of this policy should be further encouragement for people to use public transport over cars anyway now that we are at last upgrading our rail system, not before time and admittedly in concept a job half done.

City fringe centrally located headquarters there fits this perfectly, and as Jackson says  “fits our traditions and future perfectly”. The thought of moving completely out to Waverley leaves me cold I’m afraid. The Casey compromise makes more sense to me. 

 

Had the pleasure of seeing Mr Waters last evening and as such it required wandering around the Goschs precinct. Given the predisposition to build a ped bridge at a hat's drop in this area i see no problems in connecting training to admin etc. ( If this was to happen )

On 12 February 2018 at 7:40 PM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

We don't "deserve" anything other than what we earn. Part of the reason we are in this position is because the old MCC (back in the 60s and 70s) believed they were better than everyone else and "deserved" special status.

We still need a place to call home LDC.  I am certainly not saying we have earned anything after so many abysmal decades in the wilderness, but in order to have an inclusive "club" (space/place) where supporters are welcome to attend (and do so in solid numbers) we need something other than just another administration / training facility built for players and staff only.

51 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

We still need a place to call home LDC.  I am certainly not saying we have earned anything after so many abysmal decades in the wilderness, but in order to have an inclusive "club" (space/place) where supporters are welcome to attend (and do so in solid numbers) we need something other than just another administration / training facility built for players and staff only.

Honestly RN I care about as much as I do about our clash jumper. As long as the team  has good training facilities then I am happy. Do I need to have a supporters area ? No 

What I really need is a side that is a power club that wins 80+% of its games and plays regularly deep into the finals. I would like the Dees to be around and relevant in 2050. The rest will happen as a result of winning lots  of games and having a larger supporter base. 

Edited February 19, 20187 yr by old dee

11 hours ago, old dee said:

Honestly RN I care about h as I do about our clash mper. As long as the team  has good training facilities then I am happy. Do I need to have a supporters area ? No 

What I really need is a side that is a power club that wins 80+% of its games and plays regularly deep into the finals. I would like the Dees to be around and relevant in 2050. The rest will happen as a result of winning lots  of games and having a larger supporter base. 

The old chicken and egg argument OD.  I would urge anyone who thinks along such lines to spend an hour at each of the Hawks, Bulldogs & Cats facilities and then see whether you still feel the same way.  As a fellow LSDS i felt exactly as you did before doing so in the last few years OD.  Happy belated new year btw!  

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

The old chicken and egg argument OD.  I would urge anyone who thinks along such lines to spend an hour at each of the Hawks, Bulldogs & Cats facilities and then see whether you still feel the same way.  As a fellow LSDS i felt exactly as you did before doing so in the last few years OD.  Happy belated new year btw!  

Start winning first. (Football Dept and Training Facilities)

Start worrying about where to Celebrate later

(The Town Hall in the CBD of Melbourne is my personal choice), we rent space during the football season.

No point owning facilities when they’re not utilized. 

How often do we all go to Leighoak or the Bentleigh Club?