I suppose it does show how desperate we were to get this deal done, that on the face of it we have got unders.

I hope there is no payment of Jack's future  salary by us,  or the deal just got much worse.

I am hoping it is all part of a plan for something else in the next two days..

2 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

They bent over on both trades. We're building a great reputation as a club that is more than happy to be screwed right there on the trade table.

Yeah, and last year we got royally screwed on the Hibberd and Lewis deals. 

Pick 31? Mmm. It is what it is I suppose. Dees just wanted to get it done. 

Maybe the Dees want to focus on other stuff b4 trade week finishes.

I will be happier if one of our picks can land Brandon Starcevich.

15 minutes ago, Jaded said:

We have not been robbed, Lever was a good trade.

He is literally the only quality player who has been traded thus far and we landed him!

I agree that pick 31 for Watts who we invested 9 years into, is a poor outcome. But I trust the club has other plans, and to be honest I don't see the point of fighting the trade when it is clearly us who wanted him gone. Would be a super dick move to say 'go look for a new home, but oh wait we don't want to trade you where you want to go because they won't give us a good pick for you, when really you aren't that great which is why we want you gone in the first place'.

I know this is a very divisive trade that will upset a lot of people, but at the end of the day Watts has brought this on himself. We all wanted and needed him to change, and he hasn't. His talent is not lacking, but his attitude clearly is not what the club is expecting from a senior player.

It is time to move on. We got Lever, a 21 year old gun who fills a real gap on our list and pushes us closer to success, so at the end of the day we win the trade period.

Win the trade period ? How did we?

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Edited October 17, 20177 yr by ignition.

I know we get salary cap relief, but in isolation I see Pick 31 is a poor outcome IMO. Here is the recent history of pick 31: 

Jordan Roughead	Western Bulldogs	North Ballarat U18	2008
Jason Tutt	Western Bulldogs	NSW-ACT U18	2009
Ariel Steinberg	Essendon	Bendigo U18	2010
Jackson Merrett	Essendon	Geelong U18	2011
Kamdyn McIntosh	Richmond	Peel Thunder	2012
Malcolm Karpany	West Coast	Woodville-West Torrens	2013
Daniel Howe	Hawthorn	Murray U18	2014
Ryan Clarke	North Melbourne	Eastern U18	2015
Joshua Begley	Essendon	Eastern U18	2016

 

Christ what the F--K are we going to talk about now.

2 hours ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

If you accept pick 31 for Jack you are as crazy as the MFC and Goodwin. Gee, this club lacks nouse. Pick 31, unknown and a lowly draft pick. Complete pig in a poke situation. Have the premiership Port. We are glad to help your cause at our expense! How do they do it? Three class players and we can only land one. They must have something enticing. Probably the location.

Just thought I'd remind you bobby of your post after I said pick 31 a straight swap for JW. All these deluded demonlanders over valuing jack watts and having no idea about the football landscape Pick 31 is fair.

10 minutes ago, TGR said:

Listen to the simpletons boo him next year, when in fact he loved the club and wanted to stay.

 

Club has no right to play the loyalty card when Trac and Co are offered big coin in 2019/20.

Like his old man said, we stuffed him and later stoned him.  

 

 

Pick 31 or Watts?  Give me Watts.

You can have him. Just follow Port.

14 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

Watts had 35 inside 50's this year in 16 games.

Thats 2 inside 50's a game.

I don't think he was ranked in the top 200 players for inside 50's in 2017.

 

Sure, and look at how often we score when Watts is involved.

For pick 31 we were better keeping him.

31 minutes ago, solly21 said:

Pick 31 is not good enough. They said they want in the 20's so why don't they just stick with that.

Because more than likely no one was willing to pay that! The club obviously wanted him gone, no one else was interested, so the best deal they could get was pick 31.

4 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Yeah, and last year we got royally screwed on the Hibberd and Lewis deals. 

Screwed on the Lewis deal? How so? 

Mahoney on Trade Radio after the break.

 

8 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

They bent over on both trades. We're building a great reputation as a club that is more than happy to be screwed right there on the trade table.

We like it both ways. In and Out. 

3 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

I know we get salary cap relief, but in isolation I see Pick 31 is a poor outcome IMO. Here is the recent history of pick 31: 

Jordan Roughead	Western Bulldogs	North Ballarat U18	2008
Jason Tutt	Western Bulldogs	NSW-ACT U18	2009
Ariel Steinberg	Essendon	Bendigo U18	2010
Jackson Merrett	Essendon	Geelong U18	2011
Kamdyn McIntosh	Richmond	Peel Thunder	2012
Malcolm Karpany	West Coast	Woodville-West Torrens	2013
Daniel Howe	Hawthorn	Murray U18	2014
Ryan Clarke	North Melbourne	Eastern U18	2015
Joshua Begley	Essendon	Eastern U18	2016

 

I'd say the chances of us picking up any of those players with our pick 31 this year is unlikely.

9 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

They bent over on both trades. We're building a great reputation as a club that is more than happy to be screwed right there on the trade table.

Yep completely agree.

Next, they'll offer Fremantle pick 36 for Balic.

12 minutes ago, TGR said:

Listen to the simpletons boo him next year, when in fact he loved the club and wanted to stay.

 

Club has no right to play the loyalty card when Trac and Co are offered big coin in 2019/20.

Like his old man said, we stuffed him and later stoned him.  

 

 

Pick 31 or Watts?  Give me Watts.

You can bet your bottom dollar the booing will come from the Watts haters like Dr Gonzo, Petracca and Dr d. to name a few

 

This explains how genuine Geelong's interest in Jack Watts was:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/10/15/why-cats-gave-up-watts-chase/

A bad mistake, pure and simple. 

36 minutes ago, solly21 said:

Pick 31 is not good enough. They said they want in the 20's so why don't they just stick with that.

Because Port adelaide don't have a pick in the 20's. Pretty simple.

3 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Mahoney on Trade Radio after the break.

 

This will be interesting.

9 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Mahoney on Trade Radio after the break.

 

I reckon he will say it’s fair value for both parties just like he said about the Lever deal. 

Edited October 17, 20177 yr by DemonOX

Good luck Jack the next time you watch Melbourne play ,you will not recognize them........

33 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Port Adelaide, a direct competitor to us in the 5-8 bracket have just brought in Rockcliff, Motlop and Watts.... for a total cost of pick 31. They've had a tremendous trade period.

Comparatively, we've brought in Lever, but have lost Watts and 2 first round picks. Paid overs and let quality go for unders. The late picks are irrelevant unless tied to a player trade as they will produce speculative kids at best. The club better package those 2nd round picks up and make something happen or we've had a poor trade period and lost further ground on our direct finals competitors.

Lord Trav

Sadly, so true. Great post and we need more than pick 31. Lets hope they have a plan. The big fella from the loins would be good!

To all those upset about receiving pick 31, what were you realistically expecting for him?

It was clear that no club was going to part with a first round pick for him, so are you disappointed we didn't get a pick earlier in the second round?

He picked Port, the earliest pick they had in the entire draft was pick 31. It is what it is.