Welcome to Demonland: Bayley Fritsch

[Young Angus 685]

Fritta is great, never trade him, it was a bad year but these guys won us a flag too you dills.  Just need to work harder next year, be better, and win win win

[spirit of norm smith 15,056]

Fritsch needs the tough conversation

yes he’s a very good goalscorer 

but it’s a team game and he has a LACK OF SECOND EFFORTS 

LACK OF ANY TACKLING 

LACK OF DEFENSIVE PRESSURE 

He looks lazy at times !!!! 

[waynewussell 4,842]

Fritsch is generally a very good kick into forward 50. If he was kicking to himself on the lead he would score 60 goals! Yes, he needs to improve his pressure game. That can be fixed!

[Ollie fan 3,031]

17 hours ago, RedLegs23 said:

Bailey Fritsch is an elite finisher around goal - but unfortunately that is all. 

Don’t be fooled by the aesthetics of his kicking style, because his field kicking & decision making is rubbish for a guy so talented. 

Doesn't chase or tackle with intent. No team first mentality & would rather do the miraculous highlight instead of what’s best for the team. 

Becoming increasingly frustrated with this bloke & it’s only because we all know what he could be if he improved on the above.

Disagree about his field kicking. It can be magnificent. His tackling is terrible and his chasing is lacklustre but his field kicking can be up there with Melksham.

[FreedFromDesire 583]

12 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Disagree about his field kicking. It can be magnificent. His tackling is terrible and his chasing is lacklustre but his field kicking can be up there with Melksham.

There's no readily available perfect stat for field kicking - The Champion Data kick rating seems a good one, but I don't think that's publicly available? - However, Fritsch is rated 21st at the Dees for kicking efficiency, so I'm not sure I would call his field kicking 'magnificent'. He's only 0.3% in front of Gawn, and a few % ahead of Oliver, both regularly rated in the top 10 worst kicks inside 50 in the AFL. Melksham is a healthy 8% ahead of Fritsch in terms of kicking efficiency. He's also in the top 10 for worst ratio for disposals per turnover.

He his however, top 5 for us for goal accuracy and top 4 for offensive one on one win %.

He's also 23rd at Melbourne for pressure acts, 11th for tackles inside 50, 23rd for ground ball gets and 21st for crumbing possessions.

Listing those particular statistics paints a pretty clear picture of the type of player he is. However, that is not always a bad thing - In a team with a low level of skill and who struggles to score, he is still an important piece. I think the issue though is that the balance for him the last few years has swung a bit too far to the side of 'pure finisher' and he's seemingly struggling to get himself into the game. He needs to be brought into the game by those further up the field.

Perhaps this is lingering injury, perhaps this is too much focus on our 'forward connection' and he's relying on others to do all the work, but whatever it is, he has the tendency to disappear for quarters, halves, games at a time as he's lost the ability to will himself into the game.

Hopefully a new forwards coach can address this as his talent is immense.

[Abyssal 434]

2 hours ago, Young Angus said:

Fritta is great, never trade him, it was a bad year but these guys won us a flag too you dills.  Just need to work harder next year, be better, and win win win

Interesting that you called people “dills” for criticising Fritsch but then go on to say “just need to work harder”.

Isn’t that exactly what those people you call “dills” have been saying?

 

[Demonsterative 3,016]

4 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

Interesting that you called people “dills” for criticising Fritsch but then go on to say “just need to work harder”.

Isn’t that exactly what those people you call “dills” have been saying?

 

Dill

[Abyssal 434]

2 hours ago, waynewussell said:

Fritsch   he needs to improve his pressure game. That can be fixed!

“Can be fixed”?

How many years has Fritsch been at the club?

Why hasn’t it been fixed by now?

[Abyssal 434]

4 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

Dill

I have no interest in anything you say.

However by all means go ahead and continue to embarrass yourself to others with similar posts as above.

[Demonsterative 3,016]

3 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

I have no interest in anything you say.

However by all means go ahead and continue to embarrass yourself to others with similar posts as above.

Good point. Uncalled for Abyssal. 
 

Sorry big fella. 

[Abyssal 434]

11 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

Good point. Uncalled for Abyssal. 
 

Sorry big fella. 

On the presumption of given in good faith,   I thank you.

[Demonsterative 3,016]

Just now, Abyssal said:

On the presumption of given in good faith,   I thank you.

My comment was uncalled for. 

[Jaded No More 67,599]

If you get rid of Fritta you better be bringing in someone worth 50+ goals a season, or else you’ll really be crying about our lack of scoring power. 

[DubDee 24,294]

Bailey is a finisher. You have a couple in every team. He looks great when we’re winning and attacking and terrible when we lose. He has skill and natural ability but arms like pipe cleaners so to expect him to land tackles regularly against big units is not going to happen 

He should be chasing harder though. And he needs to stay focused for longer.

He is a gun. To think of trading him is utterly ridiculous 

[DeeSpencer 24,681]

1 minute ago, DubDee said:

Bailey is a finisher. You have a couple in every team. He looks great when we’re winning and attacking and terrible when we lose. He has skill and natural ability but arms like pipe cleaners so to expect him to land tackles regularly against big units is not going to happen 

He should be chasing harder though. And he needs to stay focused for longer.

He is a gun. To think of trading him is utterly ridiculous 

I’d like to know who the designated finishers in the top 4 sides. Because I don’t think any of them are carrying a one way cat like the Fritsches hat!

[Sir Why You Little 36,584]

Fritta is not a Number 1 Forward. Never has been one, his goal kicking has been great considering this. Fritta to me looks like a third forward, he needs more assistance. 
Gary Pert said as much on the Radio interview 

His tackle pressure could improve, but it’s not his biggest concern. His drop off in the back half of this Season has been disappointing 

Get another Forward Demons…

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

32 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If you get rid of Fritta you better be bringing in someone worth 50+ goals a season, or else you’ll really be crying about our lack of scoring power. 

I know a forward who fits the bill perfectly and only the first name would have to change on the locker, and the nickname remains the same… Darcy ‘Fritta’ Fritsch, Bayley’s younger (but bigger and taller) brother 😁

Jokes of course, but tomorrow I hope to witness the first player in Coldstream Footy Club’s 134-year history kick 100 goals in a season. Many have come extremely close but no one’s cracked the magic ton.

Darcy’s on 98. Barring anything on an otherworldly level of disaster, he’ll get to 100 tomorrow and when he does it’ll be the biggest day in the Club’s history.

GO LITTLE FRITTA!!!

 

[layzie 32,717]

Get better forwards to help him out 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,307]

Is it possible he’s not suited to the JVR/Petty/Turner setup?

He plays his best football as that deep lead up forward ala Jason Dunstall. In the second half of the year he’s become a bit part player that chases kicks high up the ground.

Some assessment is needed in the off season to (re)utilise a class goal kicker.

 

[jnrmac 19,890]

12 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

If you get rid of Fritta you better be bringing in someone worth 50+ goals a season, or else you’ll really be crying about our lack of scoring power. 

He's kicked 50 twice. in 8 seasons

Next best 41

Not that hard to replace. And with someone who can put on pressure and tackle,  two traits that Fritsch seems incapable of doing

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

My very favourite thing in the world is seeing a grown@ss person crying “wah, wah, wah, he’s no good, get rid of him! Wah 😩” and knowing that there’s no way in hell they’ll get rid of him. LOLSY 🤣

[FreedFromDesire 583]

15 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I’d like to know who the designated finishers in the top 4 sides. Because I don’t think any of them are carrying a one way cat like the Fritsches hat!

Not to defend him as I do feel he needs to lift in terms of pressure, but out of the current top 4, Fritsch is ahead of the following notable key forwards and medium forwards for pressure acts:

Logan McDonald, Jake Riccardi, Corey Warner, Mitch Georgiades, Joel Amartey, Jeremy Cameron, Gary Rohan, Todd Marshall, Jeremy Finlayson, Jesse Hogan.

[beelzebub 23,175]

13 hours ago, layzie said:

Get better forwards to help him out 

Get better forwards

Get better forward coach

Get better forward structures and craft

Get better forward entry/delivery

Get Better !!

[Jaded No More 67,599]

4 hours ago, jnrmac said:

He's kicked 50 twice. in 8 seasons

Next best 41

Not that hard to replace. And with someone who can put on pressure and tackle,  two traits that Fritsch seems incapable of doing

Ok so find me 41 goals. Not hard to replace?

He’s currently 14th in the league for goals kicked with only 2 others (both sitting on 42 goals) not being tall forwards. 
But by all means if you can get a trade done that nets us 41 or more goals, AND defensive pressure all in once, I’m all for it. 
 

[John Crow Batty 8,763]

4 hours ago, jnrmac said:

He's kicked 50 twice. in 8 seasons

Next best 41

Not that hard to replace. And with someone who can put on pressure and tackle,  two traits that Fritsch seems incapable of doing

  Brad Green kicked 55 goals in 2008, and Tmac 53 goals in 2018 were the last two players to kick over 50 goals in season aside from Fritsch. As you say, not hard to replace.

Edited August 25 by John Crow Batty