1 hour ago, Better days ahead said:

Why are North dictating the terms here. Pick 33 in the circumstances is reasonable. They pulled their original contract, put him on the table and he has nominated us. They have no leverage. We just need to keep our heads.

we always get dictated to. Mahoney is very ordinary at this. 

14 hours ago, picket fence said:

Question? Who is the Last MFC Player to kick 10 GOALS in a Game??

Farmer? Wouldn't otherwise have a clue....

17 minutes ago, BW511 said:

I think the Jeremy Cameron vs Ben Brown comparison means we are still getting a bargain if it costs the equivalent of #14 or thereabout

The comparison with Cameron is interesting however I'm confident that pretty much every single MFC supporter would pick Cameron over Brown in a head to head 

For the same reason Cameron' s value is far greater

I still have doubts about Browns injury, his head space, his ability to apply pressure inside 50 when he doesn't have the ball, his significant reliance on umpires to gift him free kicks ....................

2 x second round picks is overs IMO 
 

2 second rounders for Brown is a good deal.  Presuming his medical went well.  If we can get a pick back that would be ideal.

1 minute ago, Bay Riffin said:

we always get dictated to. Mahoney is very ordinary at this. 

Aside from Lever (where I think we over-payed) what other scenarios come to mind?

Just now, TRIGON said:

Aside from Lever (where I think we over-payed) what other scenarios come to mind?

I thought pick 6 for Steven May was quite a lot. 

Does really matter if we pay slight overs for Ben Brown?

As someone mentioned above, it won't be like the Jack Martin scenario where he landed for free at Carlton in the PSD. 

If we don't get a trade done tomorrow, he'll never play at Melbourne. 

1 minute ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I thought pick 6 for Steven May was quite a lot. 

What would you have paid for him Patches and how would you have made that happen?

Just now, Patches O’houlihan said:

I thought pick 6 for Steven May was quite a lot. 

I know there's a few years still to go to assess this trade but he was worth every penny in 2020.

Think this thread has divulged into a bit of "pick obsession" and Dodoro style lets be a pain in the backside stuff... you get a chance at 60+ goal kicking forward at 27-28 years of age by using a combination of some 2nd/3rd round picks, you just get the deal done.

Would we rather trade in Brown for pick 80? Sure. But it won't be that and it shouldn't be that, fair business is good business, so let's just get it done.

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Does really matter if we pay slight overs for Ben Brown?

As someone mentioned above, it won't be like the Jack Martin scenario where he landed for free at Carlton in the PSD. 

If we don't get a trade done tomorrow, he'll never play at Melbourne. 

then so be it Hopefully the footy department has a plan B right?

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Does really matter if we pay slight overs for Ben Brown?

No, but you know there has to be a winner and loser in everything. ? Trump type logic.

To me it is more about future performance rather than what was paid in draft/trade capital.

1 minute ago, Kent said:

then so be it Hopefully the footy department has a plan B right?

Yeh its called Tmac

Just now, TRIGON said:

What would you have paid for him Patches and how would you have made that happen?

I'm not sure but i remember at the time feeling like pick 6 was probably slightly overs. he's had a great year in 2020 but just in that moment i felt if it was say pick 10 i'd have been more comfortable with it. 

very happy to have May and what he's bringing to the club, just sharing my thoughts in that moment. 

2 minutes ago, Mayday said:

Think this thread has divulged into a bit of "pick obsession" and Dodoro style lets be a pain in the backside stuff... you get a chance at 60+ goal kicking forward at 27-28 years of age by using a combination of some 2nd/3rd round picks, you just get the deal done.

Would we rather trade in Brown for pick 80? Sure. But it won't be that and it shouldn't be that, fair business is good business, so let's just get it done.

Fair is Fair

Brown doesn't have a contract North pushed him out the door He and the Dees should take advantage of that

That is also fair business

I think one of 31/33 with pick 43 is what we should holding firm on for as long as we can, perhaps drop that down to 26 if they really want to play hard ball. But we should not be letting them dictate terms by the way they have dealt with Brown. 

2 second round picks? Hell no. 

Just now, TRIGON said:

Aside from Lever (where I think we over-payed) what other scenarios come to mind?

North moved him to the market rather than re-sign Brown, Brown has subsequently and relatively early nominated that he wishes to play with the Dees. Easy scenario, start offers with $1.00, otherwise he may not play footy again - at a place he wishes to be re-located. Move slowly up to pick 26 but preferably 33, with a smile. 

1 minute ago, Kent said:

then so be it Hopefully the footy department has a plan B right?

Would that plan B revolve around Weideman being double teamed each week and a washed up T Mac jogging around trying to get a kick in our forward line?

Happy to pay a bit overs here. The rewards could be spectacular.

Don't cave dees....

10 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I thought pick 6 for Steven May was quite a lot. 

I wonder if Freo feel the same, having paid pick 6 for Hogan..? 

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Would that plan B revolve around Weideman being double teamed each week and a washed up T Mac jogging around trying to get a kick in our forward line?

Happy to pay a bit overs here. The rewards could be spectacular.

Why pay overs when you are in the  better position  That is so melbourne

You reckon any other team would show that consideration I dont think so

Firm and fair will get it done!  North also have to be realistic given their strategy

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't cave dees....

we will will fall down like a deck of crards. incredible how many deals you think WTF ?

the points value of a first round pick and a first-round pick are totally different things you could get the points value of a first round pick with a heap of third or fourth round is not the same thing

17 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

we always get dictated to. Mahoney is very ordinary at this. 

Yes Hogan for 6 and 23 - good dictation there Belly.

1 hour ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I think we'd be asking for a future second back with Brown if that's the case, surely. 

they'd be looking to do what we are and engaging the dogs for their first round pick.

North's future second is very likely to be 19.

Brown + 19 for 31 + 33 - I doubt it ...