Can't be bothered looking. Does the AA squad generally feature two traditional forward pockets?

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

Can't be bothered looking. Does the AA squad generally feature two traditional forward pockets?

Kent might've left his run a bit late, Skuit. 

 

But seriously, no, it's always 2 tall forwards or a resting ruckman in the AA team. The resting ruckman getting a spot is total bull [censored]. If you're not the best ruckman, bad luck. It's a forward spot, give it to a forward. 

On 17/05/2017 at 2:27 PM, sue said:

 Surely 2 stats can result from one bit of play.  A tackle which results in a disposal is of more value to the team than no tackle at all.  For a start, the tackled player may not get the ideal disposal they would have had if they hadn't been tackled.

Have been saying on this site for many years that we need to put pressure on opposition.

We were often off balance and delivering poorly while opponents were delivering better due to no pressure 

8 hours ago, Skuit said:

Can't be bothered looking. Does the AA squad generally feature two traditional forward pockets?

He'd certainly be in the squad of 40 at this point... He'd have to be close to the 22, but selectors would go the more popular option of a Betts/Greene just like Jetta would be being overlooked

7 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

Kent might've left his run a bit late, Skuit. 

 

But seriously, no, it's always 2 tall forwards or a resting ruckman in the AA team. The resting ruckman getting a spot is total bull [censored]. If you're not the best ruckman, bad luck. It's a forward spot, give it to a forward. 

So I went and had a look. 

2016 included Betts (3rd in total goals), Rioli (10th) and Greene (15th).

2015 - Betts (2nd), Rioli (24th), Wingard (8th).

While a third-tall/utility/forward-ruck may steal a pocket, the littler guys/goal sharks can get a look-in at HF.

On 2017-5-17 at 2:27 PM, sue said:

 Surely 2 stats can result from one bit of play.  A tackle which results in a disposal is of more value to the team than no tackle at all.  For a start, the tackled player may not get the ideal disposal they would have had if they hadn't been tackled.

See @Monde post above. An effective disposal is recorded as an ineffective/attempted tackle, an ineffective disposal counts as a tackle

On 2017-5-17 at 4:39 PM, Dappa Dan said:

Waite, Garlett, Betts. Wow. lol

Kennedy, Jacobs 

47 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Kennedy, Jacobs 

And Robinson would be ranked around second or third for goals on Carlton's list right now.

Edit: 3rd - and somehow Levi has managed to kick 13.4 while no-one was watching. That over 75% accuracy!

Edited May 18, 20178 yr by Skuit

13 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

Kent might've left his run a bit late, Skuit. 

 

But seriously, no, it's always 2 tall forwards or a resting ruckman in the AA team. The resting ruckman getting a spot is total bull [censored]. If you're not the best ruckman, bad luck. It's a forward spot, give it to a forward. 

The resting ruckman probably made sense right up until the last few years since teams have stopped playing two specialist rucks. It certainly doesn't now though.

I just love calling out "JEFFY!" every time he kicks a goal,and I'm doing it quite often these days.

Always brings a smile to my face ,a real weapon for our team.

On ‎16‎/‎05‎/‎2017 at 10:42 PM, Deestroy All said:

Could be the beard, which has been proven to enhance performance. 

 

I'll also add that he gets ripped off for holding the ball after his tackles at least once a game. 

We saw him at the team hotel last week after the crows win.  There's nothing of him, but looks taller than on the ground. Kudos to his courage in frightening big defenders and more than not is better than even money to win his one on ones against them. Cue last week. Chasing is sensational .

On 5/18/2017 at 6:29 PM, JV7 said:

These clowns did rank our midfield the worst in the comp tho.... 

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/05/18/demon-is-best-small-forward-in-the-comp-luff/

Luff was steadfast in his view, even when SEN footy analyst David King questioned how a player that averages 10 disposals per game could be the AFL’s best small forward.

“He averages 2.5 groundball gets inside 50 per game, his pressure is number one in the competition, he forces the most turnovers from his pressure in the game, he has an accuracy of 74% and he’s kicking 2.5 goals per game,” Luff replied

Take that to the Lab Kingy 

10 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Luff was steadfast in his view, even when SEN footy analyst David King questioned how a player that averages 10 disposals per game could be the AFL’s best small forward.

“He averages 2.5 groundball gets inside 50 per game, his pressure is number one in the competition, he forces the most turnovers from his pressure in the game, he has an accuracy of 74% and he’s kicking 2.5 goals per game,” Luff replied

Take that to the Lab Kingy 

King is a moron. Nuff said.

On 2017-5-19 at 8:53 AM, Dr. Gonzo said:

Kennedy, Jacobs 

Kennedy though they did get Judd, so they won't lament it too much.

What a game he played tonight.

Now sitting on 25 goals and leading all small forwards for tackles. As of right now he's well and truly a part of the AA discussion.

Has Jeff kicked 5 in a Demon Jumper before?

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Has Jeff kicked 5 in a Demon Jumper before?

Nope. Only the third time in his career in fact.

Again, like Adelaide, I thought he was a bit down on touch today. Again, he kept at and tackled and kicked multiple goals. Last year/this year.

3 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Nope. Only the third time in his career in fact.

Didn't think so. That is great. 

Would love to see him kick 6-7 at The 'G

Fun fact.

Jeffy is the first Demon (aside from Jesse Hogan who's kicked a few bags) to kick five goals in a game since Sam Blease in 2012.

Actually...that wasn't so fun...

I jinxed him last week. 

Welcome back. 

That goal off the outside of the right boot, lol, gitfarked. 

Really love the way he didn't drop his head after the fluffed shots. Has come on this year, really keen to see the back half as I thought his 12-23 < 1-11 in 2016. Personally I think he has drunk the koolaid along with the rest of us.

If the AA selectors are serious, Garlett should be in the opposite pocket to Eddie Betts.  Not only has Garlett kicked 25 goals already but his pressure and tackling have been elite all season.

But I am sure they will put a FF or CHF in the pocket just cos they kicked a few more goals than Jeffy or play for a more popular team. 

 

On 2017-5-18 at 6:57 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

I especially like this part:

Luff was steadfast in his view, even when SEN footy analyst David King questioned how a player that averages 10 disposals per game could be the AFL’s best small forward....“He averages 2.5 groundball gets inside 50 per game, his pressure is number one in the competition, he forces the most turnovers from his pressure in the game, he has an accuracy of 74% and he’s kicking 2.5 goals per game,” Luff replied.

Given the number of very good small forwards this is quite a feather in Jeffy's cap.  Even if people don't like the stats approach there is no doubting Jeffy's game has gone up a few notches this year.  Not only that he is performing consistently at that higher level rather than his cameos of last year.

You lost me at David King 

Well done Jeffy, great game.