Odd that people don't rate his stats.

I thought Pedos were famous for getting touches...

  On 23/04/2017 at 08:06, waynewussell said:

Pederson CAN take a contested mark

Pederson DOES snag a goal on a tight angle

Pederson DOES compete in the air to bring the ball to ground

Pederson DOES spoil when he needs to

Pederson is NOT afraid of body contact

Pederson HAS gone down to Casey and proved himself at the lower level

Pederson HAS completed several pre-season preparations

Do I need to continue?

 

Not afraid of body contact? Do you remember the first game he played for us against Port Adelaide??? 

He may be able to do these things but on the training track doesn't count 

  On 23/04/2017 at 10:03, Adzman said:

Odd that people don't rate...

No.

He can Ruck too, is a very reliable kick and can take a great grab.

Feel a bit sorry for Pedo, his papers must be stamped

  On 23/04/2017 at 06:00, poita said:

Wow, ProDee doesn't rate Cam. Thank god he reminds us all of this thrilling fact in 85 different threads every day, otherwise we might have forgotten.

As a result, I expect Pedo to have a break out season and to become a 6 month long avatar pic.

 

I found a good stat for last year, when we had 9 odd numbered player jumpers last year we actually won 85% of our games!

  On 23/04/2017 at 10:02, Skin D said:

That's not even remotely statistically correct.

How so?

When he was in the side we won 6 of 9 (66.6%)

When out of side we won 4 of 13 (30.7%)

 

I'm not saying he is the reason we are winning, just that when he plays we win more often for some reason.

  On 23/04/2017 at 10:12, Demons11 said:

Not afraid of body contact? Do you remember the first game he played for us against Port Adelaide??? 

He may be able to do these things but on the training track doesn't count 

You clearly don't watch many many games do you?

  On 23/04/2017 at 12:23, Mud Dogs Gonna Win said:

You clearly don't watch many many games do you?

Yes every one, he is just not in many of them. 

  On 23/04/2017 at 12:27, Demons11 said:

Yes every one, he is just not in many of them. 

Pedo made one mistake, but since that time he's put his body on the line many times and taken some very courageous marks.

I'm not sure why he's not picked but obviously the coach doesn't rate him, same with Trenners, guess they don't fit in to the plan, maybe they are both a bit slow.

  On 23/04/2017 at 08:50, Ron Burgundy said:

I'd prefer to see Pedo in the team. He contributes. And he can take a mark.

 

 

I agree.  That duck in his first game for us was probably the best thing that could have happened as I've never seen him shirk a contest since.  He is competent forward, back and in the ruck.  His slimming down can only have improved his speed.   I would contend that at the moment there is a case for including him in our best 22.

  On 23/04/2017 at 09:31, small but forward said:

Hawthorn won a flag with Chips playing.

As well as Puop-aloo. @Biffen must've missed this open invite or gone to bed.  

  On 23/04/2017 at 06:23, titan_uranus said:

But that's the issue for me - when Watts is out of the forward line, we rob our forward line just to have someone sit in the ruck.

Pedersen could play Smith/Weideman's role, not add much less than them (and no, for the record, he won't add much more either), but by rucking that prevents us from having to ruck Watts when we should be playing him as a permanent forward. And as you've said, it's not like Watts is so much of a better ruckman that it's noticeable.

This

  On 23/04/2017 at 09:44, ProDee said:

It's a last resort.

Let's hope we don't have to find out.

Bottom line ?  Goodwin >>>> Demonland posters.

Only if we're winning

It's the Brad Miller argument again. Some people have VERY short memories.

Why we need the Bear is that we need that serviceable, bullocking forward who (now more than ever) can pinch hit in the ruck. Pedo isn't the one to put the cherry on the sundae. He is the bloke sticking his arze out to let our crumbers find an avenue into goal, jumping into packs so our mids can get repeat entries into 50 and he is the bloke who has the build to ruck in the forward fifty (though Jack has been manful). Leigh Brown played that role masterfully for Collingwood, Ox did it after he came back from his knee recos and the Bear plays it pretty well for us too now.

Brad Miller did the same thing in the late 00's/early 10's but some were saying that he wasn't part of our next premiership 22 (I am sad to say but since Goody took over some are spouting this 'putting the cart before the horse' rhetoric again). He  was thus delisted. We were then left with Jack Watts who wasn't ready yet to be a leading forward (and has since revealed himself to be a good third forward). Without that big body there, it dented his already fragile confidence.

We now have two potential star forwards in the Weid (who still is speculative at best at the moment) and Jesse (who has shown his wares on a more regular basis). Jesse is a finisher and won't want to play the workhorse role for too long. Weid is a colt at best and is nowhere near physically ready. We need someone to play that role until Jess and Weid can control the forward line on their own.

Would take him over Tim Smith. Looks like a fish out of water.

Surely now he will get a game!!!

yes. Pedo IN next week.

He would have clunked a few marks and allowed Watts a break from the ruck tonight.

We can play Pedo and Oscar as the 2nds tall up forward and back.

That will release Frost to play as 1st ruck with support of both Pedo and Watts.

Just hope Pedo and Oscar take their chance in the reserves this week.

 

Frost is a terrible ruck and borderline backman. For gods sake, at least play him where he's best.

Pedo in to do ruck with Watts pinch hitting.

Lewis and Bugg in too. JKH and ANB or Harmes out. Not happy with any of those 3 playing 

Weid may get another look in if Smith and Trac out.

Harmes out, gotta give JKH another go, Bugg and Pedo in, gotta feeling injuries are going to screw our year

  On 23/04/2017 at 06:23, titan_uranus said:

Except for the total lack of any relationship between the two facts.

Watts also makes a much better forward.

But that's the issue for me - when Watts is out of the forward line, we rob our forward line just to have someone sit in the ruck.

Pedersen could play Smith/Weideman's role, not add much less than them (and no, for the record, he won't add much more either), but by rucking that prevents us from having to ruck Watts when we should be playing him as a permanent forward. And as you've said, it's not like Watts is so much of a better ruckman that it's noticeable.

How many great plays did Watts set up tonight with his deftly placed disposal tonight?  The answer being quiet a few, but could have been so many more had he played 90% of the time as a forward rather than a ruckman.

I've given up all hope of Pedersen playing again. Can't wait to see Goodwin go with an Inexperienced Mitch King or Keilty before Pedo..

Rest In (pedo) Peace. 

  On 24/04/2017 at 13:50, dave said:

Harmes out, gotta give JKH another go, Bugg and Pedo in, gotta feeling injuries are going to screw our year

Harmes had 8 tackles. Wont be dropped at all.