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  On 17/04/2017 at 08:00, Clint Bizkit said:

Right now he's the answer.

No, he's not.

Weideman averaged 10.5 disposals, 3.5 marks, and 1.5 goals per game with Hogan in rounds 1 and 2.  He also jumps at high balls better than Pedersen.

I'd prefer Weideman.  What will be will be.

If Weideman is injured, I still wouldn't select Pedersen.

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      On 17/04/2017 at 08:02, Melb16 said:

    Surprised people are giving Hibberd another week. From what I saw of the game today his kicking off half back was great. Unless we'd like to handball in circles inviting the opposition to take it off us and kick goals for another week, he comes in.

    If he's considered fit enough he'll come in. We need good disposers of the footy.

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      On 17/04/2017 at 08:09, Bitter but optimistic said:

    If he's considered fit enough he'll come in. We need good disposers of the footy.

    Based on watching him today id absolutely bring him in.

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    I think today was more about touch than match fitness for hibberd and he looked our best to me 

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      On 17/04/2017 at 08:05, ProDee said:

    No, he's not.

    Weideman averaged 10.5 disposals, 3.5 marks, and 1.5 goals per game with Hogan in rounds 1 and 2.  He also jumps at high balls better than Pedersen.

    I'd prefer Weideman.  What will be will be.

    If Weideman is injured, I still wouldn't select Pedersen.

    FMD Pro he looked like a fish out of water last Saturday. I doubt even Hogan can resuscitate  him. Give him a spell at  Casey to regain some confidence.

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      On 17/04/2017 at 08:13, Bitter but optimistic said:

    FMD Pro he looked like a fish out of water last Saturday. I doubt even Hogan can resuscitate  him. Give him a spell at  Casey to regain some confidence.

    I'm OK if he's dropped.  Just don't bring in Pedersen.

    Play a small forward-line.

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      On 17/04/2017 at 08:14, ProDee said:

    I'm OK if he's dropped.  Just don't bring in Pedersen.

    Play a small forward-line.

    Agreed 

    petracca watts kent

    jeffy hogan nibbler/hannan 

    speed will trouble the tigers 

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    Williamstown   3.3  7.8  11.11  12.11 (83)
    Casey Demons   4.4  6.6  6.10  8.12 (60)

    GOALS:
    Williamstown: Gibbons 2 Currie 2 Masters 2 Marcon  Cavarra  Cordy  Dunell  Siposs  Dorgan 
    Casey Demons: Scott 4 Brayshaw  Fritsch  Pedersen  Trengove 

    BEST:
    Williamstown: Marcon Meese Fahey Masters Wheeler Greiser
    Casey Demons: Hibberd Trengove Kennedy Smith Brayshaw 

    Going off by this Hibberd was BOG with Trenners and Kennedy the next 2. If Pedersen doesn't come in then id do Kennedy for Hannan.

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      On 17/04/2017 at 08:05, ProDee said:

    No, he's not.

    Weideman averaged 10.5 disposals, 3.5 marks, and 1.5 goals per game with Hogan in rounds 1 and 2.  He also jumps at high balls better than Pedersen.

    I'd prefer Weideman.  What will be will be.

    If Weideman is injured, I still wouldn't select Pedersen.

    He also averages 0.8 tackles a game (3 tackles in his 7 games .. and is a fish out of water at the moment..) if you actually watched Pedersen in the VFL you would of seen a CHF who can take a mark as well as Ruck and still have 25 touches.. probably more than the Weid has had all year.

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    Hogan for Weideman, no brainer

    Hibberd for Melksham, no brainer

    If we want to go big, Pedersen for Hannan, otherwise, one more week for Hannan, with the possibility of Brayshaw, JKH or BK taking his spot in coming weeks.

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    Hogan for Weid. It's clear Weid needs a spell. Regardless of all else, his energy and intensity has flat-lined. Hannan can play his role. 

    I think Hibberd for Melksham is fair. We can't give unnecessary opportunities to their smalls (but we will have to work out another way to cover them - not Salem).

    And Pedo in as a utility to hold our structures - covering the ruck, up forward for Hogan or Watts up the ground, or down back if we need a floater or outlet. I guess that means Bugg comes out (although I thought he was decent on Saturday - a Bugg game).

    Ins: Hogan, Hibberd, Pedersen

    Outs: Weideman, Melksham, Bugg

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      On 17/04/2017 at 04:28, praha said:

    I'd consider just dropping Hannan and bringing in Pedersen. I'd be surprised if Weeds is dropped if fit. I can actually seem him lifting on the big stage and proving a lot of people here wrong. 

    So who makes way for Hogan?

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    Ben Kennedy was better than Trengove and Brayshaw today.  If Hannan gets dropped, BK deserves to replace him.

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    It seems to me that the longer Pedersen is out, the better a player he becomes. A bit like Frost who after being pumped up on here since pre-season reminded us all on Saturday just how ordinary he is.
    If not selected by about Round 15 the old Pedo will be having comparisons to Carey

    He is whole-hearted cannon fodder. He gives effort and has the (very) occasional good game. And while he's in, Hogan gets double-teamed as Pedo gets little respect for the opposition. I'd rather have kept Dawes - he may have struggled to mark but at least he ran to decent spots and drew a defender away from Hogan
     

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      On 17/04/2017 at 08:48, Mud Dogs Gonna Win said:

    Are you on drugs?

    Ben Kennedy barely touched it and he did he butchered it or turned it over. 

    Brayshaw worked into the game and used his hands to effect.. Kennedy had about as much gut run as Sylvia at freo..

    26 possessions equals barely touched it?  Ok.

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      On 17/04/2017 at 08:54, Petraccattack said:

    26 possessions equals barely touched it?  Ok.

     

      On 17/04/2017 at 08:55, Mud Dogs Gonna Win said:

    Did you even see his possessions? He couldn't of kicked it any worse unless was Tony Shaw on injections..

    Ben K butchered the ball today...shame, as I am a fan...

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      On 17/04/2017 at 08:54, Go the Biff said:

    It seems to me that the longer Pedersen is out, the better a player he becomes. A bit like Frost who after being pumped up on here since pre-season reminded us all on Saturday just how ordinary he is.
    If not selected by about Round 15 the old Pedo will be having comparisons to Carey

    He is whole-hearted cannon fodder. He gives effort and has the (very) occasional good game. And while he's in, Hogan gets double-teamed as Pedo gets little respect for the opposition. I'd rather have kept Dawes - he may have struggled to mark but at least he ran to decent spots and drew a defender away from Hogan
     

    Pedo won't have to give us much to produce more than Weed. Our expectations are not high! (No criticism of Weed - he's just too young/not ready). I just want someone who will compete in the air and lay some tackles. The added benefit of pedo is that he can give some ruck relief instead of Watts. 

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      On 17/04/2017 at 09:03, godees said:

    Pedo won't have to give us much to produce more than Weed. Our expectations are not high! (No criticism of Weed - he's just too young/not ready). I just want someone who will compete in the air and lay some tackles. The added benefit of pedo is that he can give some ruck relief instead of Watts. 

    Amen! Some sense! 

    Pedo comes in produces more than Hannah and Weid combined and releases Watts to only play fwd.

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      On 17/04/2017 at 04:59, dazzledavey36 said:

    Stupid suggestion.

    Watts is finally dominating up forward and keeping us in games.

    Leave him forward.

    Which means Pedo needs to come in to help Jake with the ruck work.

      On 17/04/2017 at 08:02, Melb16 said:

    Surprised people are giving Hibberd another week. From what I saw of the game today his kicking off half back was great. Unless we'd like to handball in circles inviting the opposition to take it off us and kick goals for another week, he comes in.

    ...for the very disappointing Milkshake

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      On 17/04/2017 at 06:58, ProDee said:

    In: Hogan, Hibberd

    Out: Hannan, Melksham

    Agree...

    Hannan is playing as a de facto 3rd tall at the moment so it makes sense he makes way for Hogan.

    Got his hands to the ball a few times and let it slip, can't afford that at AFL level.

    Melksham was poor; the only thing that might save him is the Tiges have a bit of pace in their forward line now, but he's gone for mine.

    Hibberd's kicking will be a bonus.

    We really miss a kid who has only played 15 minutes of footy, Smith (son of)...would add a bit more balance down back.

    Lewis is probably the next one up...the following week.

    ...and by then lets hope Brayshaw has turned the corner and Trenners keeps knocking on the door.

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    For me, Bugg out, Hib in. Hannan out, Hogan in.

    weids prob stay in due to Goody's comments pre game. 

    Milkshake stays to play on the small Tigers players and this frees Salem up to play where he should, in the bloody middle not on the half back, also would help to get Vince outta there as he shouldn't be there either.

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      On 17/04/2017 at 05:01, Petraccattack said:

    Pedersen has to come in vs the Tigers, hes dominating for Casey and we need his skill set.

    Perdersen has a skill set?

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