12 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

The pick we receive for Watts from Port could go to Brisbane for Schache. #ETthetradebreaker. #Intheknow?

interesting...go on...

1 minute ago, DemonAndrew said:

interesting...go on...

Picks 31 and 36 to Richmond for pick 17, Richmond need the extra points for Naish. 17 to Brisbane for Schache and a pick in return. #ETthetradebreaker. 

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

Picks 31 and 36 to Richmond for pick 17, Richmond need the extra points for Naish. 17 to Brisbane for Schache and a pick in return. #ETthetradebreaker. 

interesting...but will it happen?

1 minute ago, DemonAndrew said:

interesting...but will it happen?

It’s a chance. 

1 minute ago, DemonAndrew said:

interesting...but will it happen?

Unfortunately not. You will need for it to happen before Ethan is able to predict it. Ethan has a 100% strike rate and he wants to keep it. 

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Unfortunately not. You will need for it to happen before Ethan is able to predict it. Ethan has a 100% strike rate and he wants to keep it. 

Successfully predicted the Garland retirement, Watts trade and Ben Ken delistment. #BetterthanBradman. 

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

Successfully predicted the Garland retirement, Watts trade and Ben Ken delistment. #BetterthanBradman. 

You are a genius. 

I don't know.

I am all for going after a ready made star or at least a player that has proved himself over a full season or two. Lever obviously. 

However, after some of our trades over recent years, I am not overly enthusiastic about players with limited games that have not been able to show consistent form or secure a regular place.  Likewise those that have had issues off the field.

I would rather go for a young draft player with the necessary attributes including a desperation to succeed that wants to prove himself.  Not someone found wanting.  

With Watts out, there is every chance we throw 2 second rounders and grab him. Would not be the worse idea!

2 hours ago, Dirts said:

With Watts out, there is every chance we throw 2 second rounders and grab him. Would not be the worse idea!

We now have 29, 31 and 35.

Trade one for Schache, take the gamble and back ourselves in to develop him.

Get talent in.  Sure he may be Watts 2.0, but its worth the gamble. 

1 minute ago, Petraccattack said:

We now have 29, 31 and 35.

Trade one for Schache, take the gamble and back ourselves in to develop him.

Get talent in.  Sure he may be Watts 2.0, but its worth the gamble. 

Given the angst about the Watts trade price, picking up Schache for the Watts pick would soften the blow for many supporters. 

We would have a young, big forward who could end up better than Watts and even if he bombed completely, it would not be catastrophic, given our current list.

HOWEVER, our FD is not about softening the blow for supporters, it is about constructing the best list they can to give us the best chance of a flag.

7 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

That's not how the bidding works. 

If he is bid for at pick 10 then the Lions have to use their next available pick on him, i.e. pick 12 and take the change in points after the 20% discount as a later draft pick -

In this example 1395 (pick 10 bid) - 279 (20% discount = 1116 points required

1268 (lions next pick 12) - 1116 = 152 (Lions get pick 60 as change)

So 12 for Ballenden + 60 at the draft

http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/Father-son-bidding-system.pdf

Aha! happy to be proven wrong. I thought GWS had bid with later picks last year, but have just checked and you are correct.

8 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Given the angst about the Watts trade price, picking up Schache for the Watts pick would soften the blow for many supporters. 

We would have a young, big forward who could end up better than Watts and even if he bombed completely, it would not be catastrophic, given our current list.

HOWEVER, our FD is not about softening the blow for supporters, it is about constructing the best list they can to give us the best chance of a flag.

Umm, I don’t see it like that; I would prefer to look at it as a collective trade period result and not trade to trade.

One of the reasons why is that we should be competing for a flag next year and trading out someone who may assist in that for someone who definitely won’t isnt a big seller to the average punter.

Do we get to replace Garland or is like Lamimba last year?

 Couldn't delete post.

Edited October 17, 20178 yr by Redleg

get him. can you imagine him and hogan in a couple years?!

 

8 minutes ago, Tram 74 said:

Do we get to replace Garland or is like Lamimba last year?

depends on if he is de-listed /retires by the time the final list lodgement comes by

Thanks, presumably Lamumba was after the final list lodgement?

8 minutes ago, Tram 74 said:

Thanks, presumably Lamumba was after the final list lodgement?

Yeah he came back sometime after the players' end of season break and then tried to pull a swifty on the club with compensation payout.

10 hours ago, Demon77 said:

Mick Mcguane was on SEN a short time ago and gave an insight on Schache.

Not sure how to put the link up but he basically stated teams should stay away from him.

Mentioned how some young talls find it difficult to transition form U18 level into the AFL early in their careers due to some rules/system the U18 competition has in place for key forwards inside 50.

They have a lot more room to work with and can dominate one on one when they are physically stronger than their opponents but they don't have that luxury in the AFL.

Also mentioned in his second game of AFL he took 5 contested marks and yet this season he only took 2 in his ten games. He thinks something is amiss with Schache at this stage.

Mick's point regarding U18 may well be valid, but is this not a contradiction? Mcaguane says Schache has failed to adapt to AFL. Uses the example that he took 5 contested grabs in his second AFL game (before fading)? Something amiss? We may well know what that is.

Hate to be one of those posters who say they know someone etc... but a mate of mine got chatting to C. Beames (they have a mutual friend) at a qafl game and asked him about Schache. Mentioned the players are fed up with how soft he is and how much he whinges about being away from family. Not a popular figure at the club.

I could be wrong but didn’t he stand himself down for the NEAFL grandfinal? Wonder if his attute would change being closer to family.. Can see why lions recontracted him so they can drive a deal over a number a years if need be. 

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

Mick's point regarding U18 may well be valid, but is this not a contradiction? Mcaguane says Schache has failed to adapt to AFL. Uses the example that he took 5 contested grabs in his second AFL game (before fading)? Something amiss? We may well know what that is.

Could be as simple as that.

He alluded to the fact that Schache started to turn his body while attacking marking contests, could simply be a subconscious issue as he put it. 

That can clearly be worked on but I haven't seen anywhere near enough of him to say yes or no if he would be a good fit for us.

He also compared him to Curnow, same amount of games played and Curnow has shown more. 

 

 

 

Schache and Balic will be alot better footballers back in Victoria.

If we could get Schache for 31 & 36 that would be gold.

As long as we leave Pick 29 for Brandon Starcevich! Lol

Edited October 17, 20178 yr by Dee tention

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

 Couldn't delete post.

Just as well it is one of your better ones Red!

we could probably pick up Shack for 31, but seeing Mahoney is involved we will have to pay overs.