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On 11/05/2017 at 9:00 AM, billy2803 said:

Why anyone in this thread thinks they have a better idea than Clarry on how Clarry should dispose of it is beyond me.  The kid is a one in a million.  He knows what the best disposal method is for each situation, and we have no bloody idea.  That's the best part of having a player like this guy.  We just get to sit back and think "wow, that's how the good players play".  It's what makes them good.

 

I don't pretend to know how to coach Clarrie to make him an even better disposer of the ball, but the kid is only 19. To suggest that he already knows how to perfectly dispose of the ball in every situation is ludicrous. He makes mistakes, but he's a kid still learning his craft - that is what makes him so exciting. Who knows how high his ceiling might be.

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    2 hours ago, Luther said:

    I don't pretend to know how to coach Clarrie to make him an even better disposer of the ball, but the kid is only 19. To suggest that he already knows how to perfectly dispose of the ball in every situation is ludicrous. He makes mistakes, but he's a kid still learning his craft - that is what makes him so exciting. Who knows how high his ceiling might be.

    I think so long as he finds himself on the inside, he's always going to default to handballing. It's how the game is played - you don't kick from congestion because it's too risky - and it's his strength.

    If we want to see him getting more kicks, he needs to get the ball in space more. This really is splitting hairs, though, when talking about a 19 year old midfielder. He'll find the balance soon enough - it's not like the team is suffering until he finds it.

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    1 hour ago, Nasher said:

    I think so long as he finds himself on the inside, he's always going to default to handballing. It's how the game is played - you don't kick from congestion because it's too risky - and it's his strength.

    If we want to see him getting more kicks, he needs to get the ball in space more. This really is splitting hairs, though, when talking about a 19 year old midfielder. He'll find the balance soon enough - it's not like the team is suffering until he finds it.

    As he builds a tank he'll be able to get that balance and find more footy in space. The kid is still only playing about 70%TOG.

    He'll be the new perma-captain in fantasy footy once he has an AFL standard tank.

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    1 hour ago, Nasher said:

    I think so long as he finds himself on the inside, he's always going to default to handballing. It's how the game is played - you don't kick from congestion because it's too risky - and it's his strength.

    If we want to see him getting more kicks, he needs to get the ball in space more. This really is splitting hairs, though, when talking about a 19 year old midfielder. He'll find the balance soon enough - it's not like the team is suffering until he finds it.

    Not saying it's right or wrong and obviously game style has changed a fair bit over the last 20 odd years, but Greg Williams, known as both a prolific handballer disposal getter lead the league for both these categories for most of the period between 1984 - 1994, with an average hanballs per game of around 16 and average disposals of 30 - so far this year Clary is going at 23 and 31 respectively.

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    3 hours ago, Luther said:

    I don't pretend to know how to coach Clarrie to make him an even better disposer of the ball, but the kid is only 19. To suggest that he already knows how to perfectly dispose of the ball in every situation is ludicrous. He makes mistakes, but he's a kid still learning his craft - that is what makes him so exciting. Who knows how high his ceiling might be.

    well said. Agree totally in your reply. Clarrie will take time to develop and for anyone who has played the game, when in close the only option sometimes is to hand ball. Jordan Lewis is of similar ilk and he knows how to create space to either effectively kick or handball. That game plan will come with Clarrie.  What we also should give credit to are the people who decided to select Clarrie over names like Sharenberg,Rioli or Hopper in the first place.

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    Would love to land one of the GWS smalls to compliment our mid brigade. Kelly has got a lot of trade press of late, any one of Shiel, Cogniglio, Whitfield or even Dylan Smith would be handy.

    I'd take $cully back, but he'd have to play VFL only

     :pj:

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    7 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    Would love to land one of the GWS smalls to compliment our mid brigade. Kelly has got a lot of trade press of late, any one of Shiel, Cogniglio, Whitfield or even Dylan Smith would be handy.

    I'd take $cully back, but he'd have to play VFL only

     :pj:

    Think you mean Devon Smith? He can be inconsistent but I really rate him and he'd be the most gettable of those by far.

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    8 minutes ago, Luther said:

    Think you mean Devon Smith? He can be inconsistent but I really rate him and he'd be the most gettable of those by far.

    That's him. Thanks Luth. They are all reasonably young but good size and smart footballers (Whitfield not so smart off field). 

    And FMD isn't that Lobb a big, mobile unit...

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    6 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    That's him. Thanks Luth. They are all reasonably young but good size and smart footballers (Whitfield not so smart off field). 

    And FMD isn't that Lobb a big, mobile unit...

    Lobb is a genuine freak, might just be the best of he, Patton and Cameron.

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    Is there a futures market for the Brownlow?

    Once the umpires can see as fast as Oliver can gather/dispose, he will win in a canter.

    I'd put a grand on him now.

     

     

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    Quite simply a magnificent player - he has everything and he's 19. Perhaps we are watching one of the greatest ever emerge in front of our own eyes. 

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    1 hour ago, WattsUp2312 said:

    Quite simply a magnificent player - he has everything and he's 19. Perhaps we are watching one of the greatest ever emerge in front of our own eyes. 

    I still can't get over seeing him grabbing the ball while he is in mid air and before his feet have hit the ground he has already fired out a handball. The awareness and speed is insane.

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    Todays win, the news will be him and Track. Track got the 3 votes on mmm. This is their breakout.

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    This kid keeps getting better, and I can't thank Todd Viney and co for picking him. He could be the best of our lot of young lad and given the talent in that group that is really saying something. 

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    Even more than the goal from the boundary, how good was his chase and tackle on Smith! 

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    He kicked it more this week and he's usually damaging with his kicking. He obviously kicked a miracle goal, but he directly setup another goal by pulling the trigger and kicking long instead of hand balling it off like he usually does. Goodwin has started resting him forward too which is a good move as his hands are strong and he's setup a few goals now while resting down there (set one up for Petracca last week and two I can remember last night). 

    This kid is already a great player, but he could be a star of the comp in the very near future. So excited to have such a talent playing for the Dees!

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    26 minutes ago, Nasher said:

    I'm starting to think Oliver could be a pretty good player.

    He has some potential, I guess.

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    20 minutes ago, Dees_In_October said:

    He has some potential, I guess.

    Needs to work on his contested possessions. Bit weak in this area I feel. 

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    46 minutes ago, Dees_In_October said:

    He has some potential, I guess.

    Probably worth retaining on the rookie list once his contract has ended ....

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    I'm just so glad that the recruiting team didn't go the safe option in Parish (who is also a good player). Clarry is something else, though.

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