12 minutes ago, olisik said:

Much more creative then his brother and doesn't seem to be afraid to push right up to our forward line with run and carry.

Agree - disposal by foot is already superior to his big brother's

He's definitely improving but he's got a long way to go. He's a decent kick even though he shanked one badly today. He's pretty slow though and I wish he'd bring more intensity to contests. Hopefully that comes with more size and confidence. 

12 minutes ago, mdemon said:

Agree - disposal by foot is already superior to his big brother's

and he is not restricted to running in straight line. He is the goods and will just get better,

Still loves a 1m handball to no one and some strange defensive efforts, but got to give him credit for his positioning, ability to find the ball and improving disposal.

Not convinced dribbling it inside 50 is a great long term strategy but it the option was right. 

I'd love to find a young Josh Gibson instead of playing 3 talls, but I like the way Oscar is developing a two way game and with more size and strength you'd think he starts to impact contests. 

Not fully sold yet but some good steps in the right direction.

36 minutes ago, mdemon said:

Agree - disposal by foot is already superior to his big brother's

Didn't he do the pass to Pedo in the last quarter that dribbled along the ground?

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Didn't he do the pass to Pedo in the last quarter that dribbled along the ground?

Hit Pedersen perfectly, what are you talking about?

like a player dribbling a goal around the corner, o mac invented the dribble pass today.

 

hope he keeps improving.

7 hours ago, Forest Demon said:

I still have a couple of queries (as I do with most players), but he has been good the last month or so.

My only knocks are his composure in tight situations and not hitting markings contests as hard as he could.

Every young player has things they need to work on, and as I said, his last month has been good stuff.

Fair enough. They're both the sort of thing that usually improves with time & experience though, especially as his body bulks up.

The field dribble kick is the new drop punt, just watch it take off. Clearly blew the game open. Hawks never recovered from it. 

 

 

I've been critical, but he was good today. Just needs to develop and back himself more, his skills aren't bad. 

Field dribble kick, mate. 

Last two weeks his been one of our best going inside 50. We are going to get an awesome return for pick 53. North will regret not have taken him.

 

i was critical however now I think he will go on to play 200+ for the Dees including a premiership or 2.

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Didn't he do the pass to Pedo in the last quarter that dribbled along the ground?

I'd definitely prefer he kick it too low but hard & straight, than kick it over Pedo's head or miss him by metres either side or kick a floater that gets cut off.

That kick to Pedo was after Oscar ran right down the field collecting a string of possessions to get the ball down to our attacking half. Something I have never seen his brother do. 

7 hours ago, olisik said:

That kick to Pedo was after Oscar ran right down the field collecting a string of possessions to get the ball down to our attacking half. Something I have never seen his brother do. 

Never? You sure?

7 hours ago, olisik said:

That kick to Pedo was after Oscar ran right down the field collecting a string of possessions to get the ball down to our attacking half. Something I have never seen his brother do. 

it was dreadful but his brother can slot goals from the same situation .

Lucky the grubber went straight to Pedo who cleaned it up.

That kick was woeful and we were lucky Pedersen cleaned it up, let's be honest, but the play that lead to it was excellent. He run hard all the way up the ground to get on the end of it twice; the fact that he was even in a position to deliver an i50 in that situation made me very happy.

It comes back to the point I made in the week about our coaches forgiving disposal errors if the player otherwise does the right thing. This shows that we supporters can too if we're in a good mood and there was no negative consequence.

Let's not think about what might have happened if he'd done that in the back half.

11 hours ago, olisik said:

That kick to Pedo was after Oscar ran right down the field collecting a string of possessions to get the ball down to our attacking half. Something I have never seen his brother do. 

Rubbish, Tom's been pushing up the ground and attacking his entire career.

Tom does far more attacking than Oscar does, and Tom is better at it than Oscar, too.

You are so off the mark.

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

That kick was woeful and we were lucky Pedersen cleaned it up, let's be honest, but the play that lead to it was excellent. He run hard all the way up the ground to get on the end of it twice; the fact that he was even in a position to deliver an i50 in that situation made me very happy.

It comes back to the point I made in the week about our coaches forgiving disposal errors if the player otherwise does the right thing. This shows that we supporters can too if we're in a good mood and there was no negative consequence.

Let's not think about what might have happened if he'd done that in the back half.

Didn't actually look like he wanted it back, but handballed to a guy with his back to our 50. Was good he gave it back but I think the kick was a mixture of being spent and not expecting it back

Reckon they've both got their good and bad points, Oscar is still very young and Tom will always get better, he's still only 23

6 hours ago, Nasher said:

That kick was woeful and we were lucky Pedersen cleaned it up, let's be honest, but the play that lead to it was excellent. He run hard all the way up the ground to get on the end of it twice; the fact that he was even in a position to deliver an i50 in that situation made me very happy.

It comes back to the point I made in the week about our coaches forgiving disposal errors if the player otherwise does the right thing. This shows that we supporters can too if we're in a good mood and there was no negative consequence.

Let's not think about what might have happened if he'd done that in the back half.

 

Dont underestimate the chaos ball into the forward 50. It can be a very effective weapon!

...but yeah, he fluffed it majorly and we were lucky with the result in that instance.

it was just oscar's version of a daisycutter. quite effective and gave pedo's opponent no hope

19 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

He's definitely improving but he's got a long way to go. He's a decent kick even though he shanked one badly today. He's pretty slow though and I wish he'd bring more intensity to contests. Hopefully that comes with more size and confidence. 

He is like a baby giraffe, awkward, a bit slow, lacks intensity, but gees I think back to Frawley and Tom, and both were absolutely putrid when they started out. True we allowed 200 more entries into the opposition forwardline every week, but they looked so lost and out of their depth.

Oscar doesn't look scared, and generally he is composed enough with the footy. Defensively he is sound, but obviously needs 10kgs on his frame to be able to physically compete one on one (his brother shows that physically he can easily develop). In the air he is good, his awareness is ok and his ball use better than his brother's. 

There is a lot of potential there, and the best way to rapidly develop Oscar is to play him at AFL level, and take the good with the bad. It will serve us well in the long term that we are persevering with him now.

Also, how can you not love seeing this on the field

9 hours ago, Nasher said:

That kick was woeful and we were lucky Pedersen cleaned it up, let's be honest, but the play that lead to it was excellent. He run hard all the way up the ground to get on the end of it twice; the fact that he was even in a position to deliver an i50 in that situation made me very happy.

It comes back to the point I made in the week about our coaches forgiving disposal errors if the player otherwise does the right thing. This shows that we supporters can too if we're in a good mood and there was no negative consequence.

Let's not think about what might have happened if he'd done that in the back half.

I have been coaching juniors for a long time and whilst it is some jump to AFL footy the concept is the same.

If you are not making mistakes as a young player then there is a good chance that by playing safely you are treading water and stifling your development.  Yes you need to know your limitations, but how do you know where they are unless you test yourself.

I won't bemoan a risky Tmac kick that would be the right option but doesn't hit a target, or Jayden Hunt running himself into trouble.  Great teams will push themselves to the brink of their abilities, that is why they become great.

 

Just now, Stretch Johnson said:

I have been coaching juniors for a long time and whilst it is some jump to AFL footy the concept is the same.

If you are not making mistakes as a young player then there is a good chance that by playing safely you are treading water and stifling your development.  Yes you need to know your limitations, but how do you know where they are unless you test yourself.

I won't bemoan a risky Tmac kick that would be the right option but doesn't hit a target, or Jayden Hunt running himself into trouble.  Great teams will push themselves to the brink of their abilities, that is why they become great.

 

You need to pop in to the "changes against (whoever)" thread and join me in my weekly "sigh, no, Harmes won't be dropped" ritual by the sounds of it.

2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

 

Dont underestimate the chaos ball into the forward 50. It can be a very effective weapon!

...but yeah, he fluffed it majorly and we were lucky with the result in that instance.

Vince's chaos ball not long after worked out well as well.  2 straight from ordinary kicks. 

On a serious note about that kick, at least he saw the right option. I was starting to lose my [censored] in the previous few weeks with the repetitive long bombs to no one. 

The kid lowers his eyes, while more senior teammates boot the [censored] out of it.