Just saw the herald sun spread on the return of the Bombers

Not one mention of the PED saga just good news story how hard they are working Blah Blah Blah

The AFL must be pleased it is so easy to bury

It is some kind of sick joke

18 minutes ago, jackaub said:

Just saw the herald sun spread on the return of the Bombers

Not one mention of the PED saga just good news story how hard they are working Blah Blah Blah

The AFL must be pleased it is so easy to bury

It is some kind of sick joke

they must all be good blokes it seems, jack. an old tradition been been running strong since the john nichol's days

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

they must all be good blokes it seems, jack. an old tradition been been running strong since the john nichol's days

Des Tuddenham

Just now, ManDee said:

Des Tuddenham

oh, there were many, md. even a multi brownlow medallist

the trick was to always be cooperative with the media. failure to do so brought terrible retribution

Just now, daisycutter said:

oh, there were many, md. even a multi brownlow medallist

the trick was to always be cooperative with the media. failure to do so brought terrible retribution

The one whose pants fell down, a lot?

17 hours ago, jnrmac said:

It is certainly debatable what is appropriate.

Did the 16yo gymnast that lost a gold medal for taking a panadol at the Sydney Olympics get treated appropriately? I would argue that footballers have been treated very lightly by comparison as an example.

That players are not lacking culpability. The proponents of the scheme should never be allowed near a sporting club again IMO. And that includes the Doctor. 

Wow - did that really happen, Jnr? (Not doubting you, I'm just surprised. For a panadol?)

31 minutes ago, Jara said:

Wow - did that really happen, Jnr? (Not doubting you, I'm just surprised. For a panadol?)

Wasn't panadol, it was apparently Nurofen and her coach gave it to her. Many pain killers and cold meds used to, and many still do, contain psuedoephedrine which is a banned substance. 

Just goes to show why it is so important for athletes to check everything they take and don't trust anyone but ASADA with what is banned and what is not. Just goes to show the whole defense the players went with of 'but the people we trusted said it was fine'. Does not cut it by a mile, even though very few, if any, in AFL land actually get this yet!

2 hours ago, ManDee said:

The one whose pants fell down, a lot?

you got it

4 hours ago, jackaub said:

Just saw the herald sun spread on the return of the Bombers

Not one mention of the PED saga just good news story how hard they are working Blah Blah Blah

The AFL must be pleased it is so easy to bury

It is some kind of sick joke

Just saw it now. Makes me ill

i shall hate and despise Essendon till i am long dead. This shlt will not be forgotten. They are getting Gold Class treatment now for lying and cheating

Gill. You to are a disgrace

2 hours ago, Jara said:

Wow - did that really happen, Jnr? (Not doubting you, I'm just surprised. For a panadol?)

 

2 hours ago, Chris said:

Wasn't panadol, it was apparently Nurofen and her coach gave it to her. Many pain killers and cold meds used to, and many still do, contain psuedoephedrine which is a banned substance. 

Just goes to show why it is so important for athletes to check everything they take and don't trust anyone but ASADA with what is banned and what is not. Just goes to show the whole defense the players went with of 'but the people we trusted said it was fine'. Does not cut it by a mile, even though very few, if any, in AFL land actually get this yet!

Yes my bad. It was for Nurofen. Was prescribed by the team doctor I recall. Very tough outcome. The EFC are very lucky.

http://m.bbc.com/sport/38261608

Russia should not have been allowed to compete at rio.

Sad day for world sport.

Of course if they were afl players theyd just be great blokes who are victims of an afl/asada lead conspiracy.

What's the point of doping to win an Olympic medal? Wouldn't that be the most hollow victory imaginable?

 

It's like using warp pipes to beat Super Mario Bros.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38253541?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport

 

Scary stuff

Edited December 9, 20168 yr by biggestred

Out of interest has anyone found a link to the appeal judgement transcript.

Wonder if it was ever published

cheers

On 09/12/2016 at 11:30 PM, SaberFang said:

What's the point of doping to win an Olympic medal? Wouldn't that be the most hollow victory imaginable?

 

It's like using warp pipes to beat Super Mario Bros.

 

Fame and lucrative sponsorship deals I suppse.

On 9 December 2016 at 11:22 PM, biggestred said:

http://m.bbc.com/sport/38261608

Russia should not have been allowed to compete at rio.

Sad day for world sport.

Of course if they were afl players theyd just be great blokes who are victims of an afl/asada lead conspiracy.

I'm trying to work out which is more likely:

• they were allowed to compete because Stephen Dank provided compelling evidence to show how the Russian athletes did nothing wrong; or
• they were allowed to compete because the Russians were able to prove they had no association with Stephen Dank.

Cotchin and Mitchell are now the official 2012 Brownlow medalists.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sam-mitchell-and-trent-cotchin-get-2012-brownlow-medals-20161213-gt9u65.html

Interesting that Crotchin contacted Jobe:   "I've reached out to Jobe. I thought that was the right thing to do,"

Mitchell on the hand:   'Mitchell was even briefer when asked if he was thinking of Watson..."No, I'm going to leave that," Mitchell said'.

Its pretty clear what Mitchell thinks!  His silence backs up his syringe in the arm 'mime' of a few years ago.  Good on him for not giving credence to the 'poor Jobe' charade that seems to have infected most in the wider AFL world.  

Edit:  Sam McClure is making a strong case for Jobe to actually hand back the medal http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sam-mitchell-and-trent-cotchin-have-their-2012-brownlow-medals-jobe-its-time-to-hand-yours-back-20161214-gtb3pr.html

Quotes:

• The AFL doesn't have it. 
• Essendon say they don't want to know where it is. 
• Watson himself is telling people he's unsure of its exact location. 

In fact, the AFL is adamant that the location of the medal is of no interest to it. 

So Jobe keeps his medal after all.  Rather insulting to Crotchin and Mitchell.

Edited December 14, 20168 yr by Lucifer's Hero

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Cotchin and Mitchell are now the official 2012 Brownlow medalists.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sam-mitchell-and-trent-cotchin-get-2012-brownlow-medals-20161213-gt9u65.html

Interesting that Crotchin contacted Jobe:   "I've reached out to Jobe. I thought that was the right thing to do,"

Mitchell on the hand:   'Mitchell was even briefer when asked if he was thinking of Watson..."No, I'm going to leave that," Mitchell said'.

Its pretty clear what Mitchell thinks!  His silence backs up his syringe in the arm 'mime' of a few years ago.  Good on him for not giving credence to the 'poor Jobe' charade that seems to have infected most in the wider AFL world.  

 

......as sands in the looking glass, all things must pass........as we who are left, to experience this farce, etc etc....ran out of rhymes.....

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Cotchin and Mitchell are now the official 2012 Brownlow medalists.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sam-mitchell-and-trent-cotchin-get-2012-brownlow-medals-20161213-gt9u65.html

Interesting that Crotchin contacted Jobe:   "I've reached out to Jobe. I thought that was the right thing to do,"

Mitchell on the hand:   'Mitchell was even briefer when asked if he was thinking of Watson..."No, I'm going to leave that," Mitchell said'.

Its pretty clear what Mitchell thinks!  His silence backs up his syringe in the arm 'mime' of a few years ago.  Good on him for not giving credence to the 'poor Jobe' charade that seems to have infected most in the wider AFL world.  

 

......as sands in the looking glass, all things must pass........as we who are left, to experience this farce, etc etc....ran out of rhymes.....

On 02/12/2016 at 1:23 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Makes me ill

i shall hate and despise Essendon till i am long dead. This shlt will not be forgotten. They are getting Gold Class treatment now for lying and cheating

Gill. You to are a disgrace

Makes me ill too..

Sorry Gill - when the man is right - the man is right!

If Hird's puppets have to be allowed back , they should have to sneak down the race under cover of darkness. Switch the lights off when they run out for the first game and ban the theme song!

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/trent-cotchins-show-of-respect-to-jobe-watson-before-2012-brownlow-medal-handover/news-story/efa34588fe750031ee718abcbe3503b6

An interesting piece of intrigue:  "...as the AFL still refused to say where Watson’s medal was and whether he had given it back".

That has a hollow ring of truth - if it was given back they would say so, right? 

Probably part of the 'deal', something like - no problem, Jobe, yeah just tell the media you will give it back but tuck Charlie away in a bottom draw for a while and keep it quiet.

Set up right there for some future amnesty and 'return' of the medal to 'poor Jobe'...probably to coincide with his intro to he "Hall of Shame Fame".

The AFL are truly a disgrace.  Many of us have said it on DL, if it wasn't for the love of the Dees I would give AFL away.  

 

Edited December 13, 20168 yr by Lucifer's Hero

6 pages in today's hun on the brownlow (re)awards.

not one article by the chief hun football writer, slobbo..........expect he's working on a big jobe sympathy piece

14 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

6 pages in today's hun on the brownlow (re)awards.

not one article by the chief hun football writer, slobbo..........expect he's working on a big jobe sympathy piece

You're probably right there DC.

Sometimes it takes a while to brew up a big steaming pile of [censored].

16 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Cotchin and Mitchell are now the official 2012 Brownlow medalists.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sam-mitchell-and-trent-cotchin-get-2012-brownlow-medals-20161213-gt9u65.html

Interesting that Crotchin contacted Jobe:   "I've reached out to Jobe. I thought that was the right thing to do,"

Mitchell on the hand:   'Mitchell was even briefer when asked if he was thinking of Watson..."No, I'm going to leave that," Mitchell said'.

Its pretty clear what Mitchell thinks!  His silence backs up his syringe in the arm 'mime' of a few years ago.  Good on him for not giving credence to the 'poor Jobe' charade that seems to have infected most in the wider AFL world.  

 

Rather, it's pretty clear what you think Mitchell thinks.

It's possible that Mitchell detests Jobe; that Mitchell likes Jobe and feels any discussion is unhelpful; that Mitchell has decided that private conversations should remain private; that Mitchell had always intended speaking to Jobe after the awards ceremony; that Mitchell had spoken to Jobe and made a promise not to speak to the media; that Mitchell was sorry and embarrassed for his 'syringe mime' and therefore didn't want to be reminded of that should any comment he make result in him being asked about it. I could go on.

 

3 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Rather, it's pretty clear what you think Mitchell thinks.

It's possible that Mitchell detests Jobe; that Mitchell likes Jobe and feels any discussion is unhelpful; that Mitchell has decided that private conversations should remain private; that Mitchell had always intended speaking to Jobe after the awards ceremony; that Mitchell had spoken to Jobe and made a promise not to speak to the media; that Mitchell was sorry and embarrassed for his 'syringe mime' and therefore didn't want to be reminded of that should any comment he make result in him being asked about it. I could go on.

 

Yep, and he could pass all that onto the kids he teaches in class! I think not...