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This is one to put on the watch-list.

Won the B&F this year for the Mandurah Mustangs in WA a few weeks ago - in their Year 8 team.

Don't know too much else about him at this stage... except that he happens to be the son of the Wizard.

Wish we had a pic of him like we did of a very young Billy Stretch, but this will have to do for the time being.

 

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The unfortunate thing with him being a WA boy and the Wizard playing over 100 games for both the Dees & Dockers is that one suspects Freo will have the inside lane.

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Don't the players nominate the team? Or was that the older system?

I distinctly remember a year or two ago some kid had the choice between nominating St Kilda or Carlton due to the father son rule.

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20 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

The unfortunate thing with him being a WA boy and the Wizard playing over 100 games for both the Dees & Dockers is that one suspects Freo will have the inside lane.

Not sure about that. The Wiz always regretted leaving us and has said it often. He said the best thing he did, was to get away to Melbourne.

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Not sure about that. The Wiz always regretted leaving us and has said it often. He said the best thing he did, was to get away to Melbourne.

Wiz has also stated on a couple of occasions that he would rather see his boys line up for Melbourne too, so there's always hope!

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3 hours ago, Redleg said:

Not sure about that. The Wiz always regretted leaving us and has said it often. He said the best thing he did, was to get away to Melbourne.

I once bumped into the Wiz lining up for the toilets at subi oval. He wasn't wearing any colours though so I asked him where his allegiance lied. He didn't hesitate - Melbourne

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Whichever club his son chooses (on the assumption he is up to the grade), it won't be up to the Wiz, so his opinion is barely relevant.  

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1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Whichever club his son chooses (on the assumption he is up to the grade), it won't be up to the Wiz, so his opinion is barely relevant.  

Strange comment Nash.

One would think his fathers opinion would carry more weight than anyone else's. I'm very happy to see him pushing his son towards the Dees.

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5 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Strange comment Nash.

One would think his fathers opinion would carry more weight than anyone else's. I'm very happy to see him pushing his son towards the Dees.

It's why I went for "barely relevent" instead of "totally irrelevant".  The kid has grown up in WA, I think his desire to stay home (or otherwise) will vastly outweigh any other factor, including pressing from his father.  

I'm just not sure that most 18 year olds, given the option, would move to the other side of the country when given they don't have to.  Don't get me wrong - I'm happy for the Wiz to push him in our direction, but I think people are overvaluing the weight of that pushing.  He's his own person who will make his own decision.

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Just now, Nasher said:

It's why I went for "barely relevent" instead of "totally irrelevant".  The kid has grown up in WA, I think his desire to stay home (or otherwise) will vastly outweigh any other factor, including pressing from his father.  

I'm just not sure that most 18 year olds, given the option, would move to the other side of the country when given they don't have to.  

The overwhelming majority of people have their footy allegiances determined by their father. Not a choice of their own.

Seems like the Wiz would have been in his ear, trying to steer him to follow the Dees also. I expect that would have a higher than "barely relevant" influence on his sons choices.

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5 minutes ago, faultydet said:

The overwhelming majority of people have their footy allegiances determined by their father. Not a choice of their own.

Seems like the Wiz would have been in his ear, trying to steer him to follow the Dees also. I expect that would have a higher than "barely relevant" influence on his sons choices.

Fair enough.  I wouldn't base a life decision such as moving thousands of kilometres away to somewhere where I didn't know anyone, when I could do the same job without moving 100 metres, based on the footy team my father barracked for.  But I accept others might.  I shall agree to disagree.

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4 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Fair enough.  I wouldn't base a life decision such as moving thousands of kilometres away to somewhere where I didn't know anyone, when I could do the same job without moving 100 metres, based on the footy team my father barracked for.  But I accept others might.  I shall agree to disagree.

Lets put it this way.

I have more confidence that he would choose to play for us if his dad is pushing our way, than if he was doing the same for Freo.

How cool would it be the have another Wiz running around jumping on peoples heads again?

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7 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Lets put it this way.

I have more confidence that he would choose to play for us if his dad is pushing our way, than if he was doing the same for Freo.

How cool would it be the have another Wiz running around jumping on peoples heads again?

Yep - no dispute there.  It's only the degree of "more confidence" that I'm arguing.  I love arguing grey positions :-)

I would love to see Wiz Jr running around in MFC colours (assuming his son is the same sort of player!) Probably my favourite player through my teenage years.

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If i remember Wiz was pretty bitter with the dockers in his final year due to his treatment after finishing up.

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Although in his other comment on the photo he does say #freondemons #comegethim

Would love to see him at MFC. Is there anything as heart warming for supporters to see than a father/son making it at the club? Hope they never get rid of the rule.

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8 hours ago, DemonWA said:

I once bumped into the Wiz lining up for the toilets at subi oval. He wasn't wearing any colours though so I asked him where his allegiance lied. He didn't hesitate - Melbourne

Did his answer have anything to do with the colours you were wearing at the time?

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1 hour ago, faultydet said:

The overwhelming majority of people have their footy allegiances determined by their father. Not a choice of their own.

Seems like the Wiz would have been in his ear, trying to steer him to follow the Dees also. I expect that would have a higher than "barely relevant" influence on his sons choices.

Dunno about that. There's a high % of AFL footy fans that are women, many more than other male dominated sports, more so than cricket or soccer. I know of many footy mad mum's that have determined their kid's preferences. 

Likewise most draftees want to be in the same state, the same city as their family. That would be the true 'overwhelming' factor.

Whilst Jeff might have a soft spot for the Dees and say he'd like his kid there, the reality of family unity might not lure the kid far from home.

But here's hoping he's a gun and chooses the Dees, hey...

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18 hours ago, DemonAndrew said:

he wants his kid at the dees? happy days.

It would be great to see the Wiz back at the 'G' watching his boy lineup in Red'n'Blue.

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I've got a mate who's young fella also plays for the Mustangs.

Says he's got it all and will play league footy.

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