Simon Goodwin era starts today

[DeeZone 10,100]

I also was very impressed with the way that he handled himself, no outlandish statements here, very much in the Paul Roo's mould. One thing that stood out for me was that he watches two - three AFL games every week to see what the other coaches are up to and looks at strategies required to beat them and ways to improve his own game plan at the same time, looks like we have a real thinker here. He has also had a lot of team and individual success during his 275 games at the Crow's. I like his candour and self confidence, let's hope that he can continue to take the team up the ladder and eventually taste that ultimate success as a senior coach. Go SIMON!! - GO DEE's!!

[sue 9,138]

7 hours ago, DeeZone said:

I also was very impressed with the way that he handled himself, no outlandish statements here, very much in the Paul Roo's mould. One thing that stood out for me was that he watches two - three AFL games every week to see what the other coaches are up to and looks at strategies required to beat them and ways to improve his own game plan at the same time, looks like we have a real thinker here. He has also had a lot of team and individual success during his 275 games at the Crow's. I like his candour and self confidence, let's hope that he can continue to take the team up the ladder and eventually taste that ultimate success as a senior coach. Go SIMON!! - GO DEE's!!

Surely you'd expect it to be bog standard for every coach to watch as many games as possible. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

7 minutes ago, sue said:

Surely you'd expect it to be bog standard for every coach to watch as many games as possible. 

Exactly, in fact two or three doesn't sound like many at all.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

How impressive is Goody!?

 

[jnrmac 20,184]

9 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

'Successful' is an arbitrary term jnr.

Not fact. 

Well I disagree,. The context is what happened at Collingwood. ie unsuccessful transition/handover. This has been a successful handover.

Whether he is the right coach going fwd is an entirely different matter.

 

 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

34 minutes ago, sue said:

Surely you'd expect it to be bog standard for every coach to watch as many games as possible. 

Yes, watching three games of AFL sounds like a footy tragic's idea of slacking off.

[Mickey 4,731]

8 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

Yes, watching three games of AFL sounds like a footy tragic's idea of slacking off.

I'm pretty sure he meant 3 games live

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

32 minutes ago, Abe said:

How impressive is Goody!?

 

THIS impressive:

[John Crow Batty 8,878]

I wish Goodwin every success but I am am not about to lavish premature praise on him like some already do here.  The conga line of unsuccessful coaches is very long.  The  challenge for him is to make us elite and not just another pretender like North or Richmond.  He has  the players and extensive ground work has been done. I am not sure about the culture and  commitment to success from players. He will get my praise when he makes us elite. 

 

 

 

Edited September 14, 2016 by america de cali

[Sir Why You Little 37,122]

Goodwin has had the best transition any aassistant could ever hope for. 

Now the responsibilities begin

let's see if he can cut it

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Roos/PJ have left a great template, coaching crew/facilities for Goody to step into.

Would be a pretty poor coach/man manager who stuffs things up from here.

Having said that, I'm a little concerned with his comments on SEN. Sounds like the 'focus on youth' policy is still in play for a while. We're already the most inexperienced team in the AFL.

Going to be a very marginal improvement next year at best unless we bring in another 2/3 quality experienced mids. 

We are also one Key Forward down IF Hulk is unable to improve his goal kicking technique and/or decides he is moving back home in 2018. We also need another nippy small forward IMO. Weids is a great prospect but still 2 pre seasons away (including this one) from having a significant impact.

Fix the above at the trade (not draft) table and we take a substantial step up the ladder and almost a shoe in for finals.

If we dont my expectations will be a few extra wins (subject to luck with injuries)  but no chocolates (ie, finals) in 2017.

Here's hoping the Club/Goody/FD/List manager haven't already made their first tactical list management error. 

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

4 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Roos/PJ have left a great template, coaching crew/facilities for Goody to step into.

Would be a pretty poor coach/man manager who stuffs things up from here.

Having said that, I'm a little concerned with his comments on SEN. Sounds like the 'focus on youth' policy is still in play for a while. We're already the most inexperienced team in the AFL.

Going to be a very marginal improvement next year at best unless we bring in another 2/3 quality experienced mids. 

We are also one Key Forward down IF Hulk is unable to improve his goal kicking technique and/or decides he is moving back home in 2018. We also need another nippy small forward IMO. Weids is a great prospect but still 2 pre seasons away (including this one) from having a significant impact.

Fix the above at the trade (not draft) table and we take a substantial step up the ladder and almost a shoe in for finals.

If we dont my expectations will be a few extra wins (subject to luck with injuries)  but no chocolates (ie, finals) in 2017.

Here's hoping the Club/Goody/FD/List manager haven't already made their first tactical list management error. 

The way I read his comments was that everything was on the table.  Youth, through the draft and trade table.  I think we just need to wait and see on this one, but I for one was very impressed in the way he spoke on SEN.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

I wouldn't take any notice of anything he's said on the radio.

He has clearly learned well from Roos ... the art of uttering words and saying nothing.

His SEN interview was all motherhood statements and no actual information.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,274]

15 hours ago, A F said:

Haha, loved the whack from PJ directed at Collingwood. That's two whacks directed at two big Victorian clubs in the past 2 weeks.

What was the other whack?

Edited September 15, 2016 by Dr. Gonzo

[Dr. Gonzo 24,274]

2 hours ago, sue said:

Surely you'd expect it to be bog standard for every coach to watch as many games as possible. 

 

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Exactly, in fact two or three doesn't sound like many at all.

Realistically a coach in Melbourne has 3, maybe 4, games a week they can attend live. Coaches in other states wouldn't have anywhere near the same opportunities, unless they're playing away in Melbourne maybe 5 times a year. When you think there are probably 5 time slots you could realistically get to (Fri night, Sat arvo, Sat night, Sun arvo, Sun twilight) and your team is playing in one of those timeslots getting to watch 2-3 games a week live is probably more than most coaches.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

 

Realistically a coach in Melbourne has 3, maybe 4, games a week they can attend live. Coaches in other states wouldn't have anywhere near the same opportunities, unless they're playing away in Melbourne maybe 5 times a year. When you think there are probably 5 time slots you could realistically get to (Fri night, Sat arvo, Sat night, Sun arvo, Sun twilight) and your team is playing in one of those timeslots getting to watch 2-3 games a week live is probably more than most coaches.

I missed the "attend live" part.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

This isn't meant to be a pot shot at Neeldy and i hope it's not take like that, but the difference between Goodwin and Neeld when they took over is so obvious! Goodwin is just so sure of himself and know's he can do the role, Neeld seemed a bit more as though he hoped he could do the role and that is clearly a huge benefit of the succession plan

I reckon it will become a more and more common part of footy moving into the future 

[hemingway 7,631]

Agree with the comments on this thread. Have only just listened to the press conference and it has to be the most impressive performance I have heard from a President, CEO and coach. Reassuringly, It showed what a stable club we have become and reflects the benefit of good leadership and considered management. People who know what needs to be done and who have shown by their actions that they all have a stake in the outcome.

Wise leadership. 

i liked the belief, the expectation, and the clear vision tempered with a realistic outlook.

It was the most impressive performance by a new coach that I can remember watching.  What I saw in the new coach was:

Belief, ambition, realism, intelligence, listening skills, patience, clear thinking, clear communication, honesty, humility, and support for players and staff,  A man with very strong attributes for a senior coach.  

We are in good hands.

 

[Mach5 4,768]

30 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

 

Realistically a coach in Melbourne has 3, maybe 4, games a week they can attend live. Coaches in other states wouldn't have anywhere near the same opportunities, unless they're playing away in Melbourne maybe 5 times a year. When you think there are probably 5 time slots you could realistically get to (Fri night, Sat arvo, Sat night, Sun arvo, Sun twilight) and your team is playing in one of those timeslots getting to watch 2-3 games a week live is probably more than most coaches.

Surely it can't be "attend live"...

What about when we play interstate?
It leaves no time, before and after the match. Most you'd be able to squeeze in is maybe one match live.

[Adam The God 30,406]

59 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

What was the other whack?

The one directed at Richmond by Roosy in his parting speech.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/paul-roos-says-melbourne-united-richmond-in-disarray-in-farewell-speech/news-story/115f12006df77c0be0f041f29f1e68e8

[Adam The God 30,406]

41 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Agree with the comments on this thread. Have only just listened to the press conference and it has to be the most impressive performance I have heard from a President, CEO and coach. Reassuringly, It showed what a stable club we have become and reflects the benefit of good leadership and considered management. People who know what needs to be done and who have shown by their actions that they all have a stake in the outcome.

Wise leadership. 

i liked the belief, the expectation, and the clear vision tempered with a realistic outlook.

It was the most impressive performance by a new coach that I can remember watching.  What I saw in the new coach was:

Belief, ambition, realism, intelligence, listening skills, patience, clear thinking, clear communication, honesty, humility, and support for players and staff,  A man with very strong attributes for a senior coach.  

We are in good hands.

 

Great post, Hem. I thought it was the most assured I'd seen Bartlett too. I was a little underwhelmed by his public speaking early on, but I think he's really grown into that and I love that he doesn't interfere in FD matters. He's won me over and don't get me started about PJ. 

[Adam The God 30,406]

25 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Surely it can't be "attend live"...

What about when we play interstate?
It leaves no time, before and after the match. Most you'd be able to squeeze in is maybe one match live.

I think it was a semi-flippant comment to be honest. He meant he engrosses himself in the game (and in this case the rest of the competition), but there's a point where you have to focus on your own team.

[hemingway 7,631]

12 minutes ago, A F said:

Great post, Hem. I thought it was the most assured I'd seen Bartlett too. I was a little underwhelmed by his public speaking early on, but I think he's really grown into that and I love that he doesn't interfere in FD matters. He's won me over and don't get me started about PJ. 

Agreed ad, just plain sensible talk no bull..... and clearly all on the same page. unlike some other club presidents, Bartlett is not a headline grabber.

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

3 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Agreed ad, just plain sensible talk no bull..... and clearly all on the same page. unlike some other club presidents, Bartlett is not a headline grabber.

It such a refreshing change to not have the administration of this club in the headlines for all the wrong reasons.  When things are quiet on that front, you know everything is working as it should.

[Little Richard 6,265]

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Well I disagree,. The context is what happened at Collingwood. ie unsuccessful transition/handover. This has been a successful handover.

Whether he is the right coach going fwd is an entirely different matter.

 

 

Aren't we only going to find out if the transition was successful when we can compare on field performance? That's where it matters.

Enjoyed listening to Goodwin though. A similar speaker to Roos isn't a bad thing at all.