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7 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I think they'll trade Gibbs and get all those ex GWS players for pick 13 plus something else from the Crows in the Gibbs deal. 

Trading out Yarran, Henderson and Menzel worked perfectly last year. Gibbs and Touhy are far more reliable players but you have to give something to get something when rebuilding and they just have very little to offer up.

They are adding average players because their list is rubbish and it's better to clear it out aggressively than hold on to battlers who are so bad they aren't even recognisable names. I wish GWS were around to dump 4 for 1 deals on when our list was a complete mess in 2012-2014. Instead we end up keeping Matt Jones, Terlich, Newton, Spencer, Michie, Bail types on for years. Guys like Kerridge, Wright, Sumner, Lamb at least offer fresh faces and able bodies.

They had 4 top 20 or so picks last year (3 of them were talls) plus Plowman. If I'm right they'll have pick 5, Marchbank and Pickett coming in this year. They've gone a long way to securing the spine which is a long term investment that usually doesn't show immediate results. If they get long term results from Weitering, Marchbank, Plowman, backline trio, Kreuzer/Phillips ruck, Curnow and McKay forward then they've got years to add midfielders. They'll probably start with pick 5 this year and get a very nice talent. The experienced B + C grade mids can provide the support for the young talls to develop and then once that happens it's easy to throw mids in.

I'm not sure the Blues 'faithful' can wait that long. I'm betting they assemble an average to middle of the road list and then panic and bow to supporter pressure, which will sink them even further.

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10 minutes ago, stuie said:

Deal done:

Hanley and Pick 67 (PA) to Gold Coast

2017 1st Rnd Pick (PA) and Pick 22 (GC) to Brisbane

Pick 19 (Bris) and Pick 30 (GC) to Port Adelaide

Go home Port, you're drunk...

 

Very strange deal from Port.  They essentially give up a first round pick for 2 second round picks, yet the pick they gave up has a high chance of landing inside the Top 10.  Surely GC could have got this deal done on their own, possibly coughing up something like Pick 8 for Hanley and Pick 22? 

 

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1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Very strange deal from Port.  They essentially give up a first round pick for 2 second round picks, yet the pick they gave up has a high chance of landing inside the Top 10.  Surely GC could have got this deal done on their own, possibly coughing up something like Pick 8 for Hanley and Pick 22? 

 

The only thing I can think of is they have a trade lined up that they needed those picks for. Still 2 and a bit days to go, be interesting to see if they make a move.

 

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4 minutes ago, stuie said:

Deal done:

Hanley and Pick 67 (PA) to Gold Coast

2017 1st Rnd Pick (PA) and Pick 22 (GC) to Brisbane

Pick 19 (Bris) and Pick 30 (GC) to Port Adelaide

Go home Port, you're drunk...

 

Haha that's a disaster for Port you would think?

I would expect their pick next season to be around pick 7-10.

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If anyone wants to play around with how much points are worth in trade deals try this - https://www.draftguru.com.au/pick-value-calculator 

Basically shows that the Port deal must see them finish in the top 8 to win the trade, 9th and it's win-win and any lower and they lose. On the other hand it shows our trades with Gold Coast last year were around the same mark (trade that got us Oliver & Weid), and that the add on to that trade with GWS that got us higher in the draft order meant Bugg came to us around pick 53. 

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2 minutes ago, stuie said:

Yep. Weird trade. Something else must be on the cards for them. Surely...

 

A certain Carlton player wants to come home to Adelaide... There are TWO teams in Adelaide... One is not getting anywhere with pick 13 + a player... The other has just received some handy picks from Brisbane...

Do the math :cool:

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2 minutes ago, KrazyJay said:

A certain Carlton player wants to come home to Adelaide... There are TWO teams in Adelaide... One is not getting anywhere with pick 13 + a player... The other has just received some handy picks from Brisbane...

Do the math :cool:

Didn't he nominate the Crows though? Would definitely test the whole "go home" thing. Interesting.

 

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4 minutes ago, stuie said:

Didn't he nominate the Crows though? Would definitely test the whole "go home" thing. Interesting.

 

Will ensure another level of spite in the Showdowns for the next few years... Also explains Carlton's move on B grade GWS players if they can strengthen their draft position this year

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With Hogan coming out saying he was a 50/50 chance to head home but the future was to bright at Melbourne is more of a powerful statement than landing a big fish this year. Hopefully with a better season next year for the club it opens the doors for a big fish to want to be part of it. 

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18 minutes ago, armstrong35 said:

With Hogan coming out saying he was a 50/50 chance to head home but the future was to bright at Melbourne is more of a powerful statement than landing a big fish this year. Hopefully with a better season next year for the club it opens the doors for a big fish to want to be part of it. 

I actually think the club half think we've got the "big fish" in house, that along with Hogan, guys like Trac, Oliver, Weid, Gus, Hunt etc. that one or more of them will become an elite of the comp. We're just a little impatient, but I suspect we'll fill in the gaps with role players (Lewis is the one out of the box but comes with experience), so we get to the point where the team has 2 or 3 elite, 5 - 8 A graders, then a heap of solid B graders. 

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They're at AFL House putting the paperwork in for Lewis.  It's getting scary - In my best 22 I can't find room for Wagner, Salem ,Stretch, Harmes or Brayshaw.  If you do find room for them, then someone just as good misses out.  At last we've got about 10 - 12 guys able to run through the middle.

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Hawk vice-captain Jordan Lewis is now a Demon. 

Hawthorn will receive picks 48 and 66 in exchange for Lewis.

Melbourne will also receive picks 57 and 68.

Hawk coach Alastair Clarkson said: 

“Jordan has been a big part of this football club for the last 12 years and he will be sorely missed by the players, coaches and staff.

“He has given great service to the Hawks and his leadership both on and off the field has been invaluable. 

“It is never easy to part ways with a champion of the club, but we have got to this point through mature and open conversations with the best interests of both Jordan and the club at heart."

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1 minute ago, stinga said:

They're at AFL House putting the paperwork in for Lewis.  It's getting scary - In my best 22 I can't find room for Wagner, Salem ,Stretch, Harmes or Brayshaw.  If you do find room for them, then someone just as good misses out.  At last we've got about 10 - 12 guys able to run through the middle.

Not sure what your 22 looks like but Wagner should be nowhere near it. Not a bad player, but clearly depth. 

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So we picked him up for a late-40's and late-60s slide of 11 places in the draft in total?

Wow! 

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