Just now, olisik said:

No credible journalists have said anything about Rockliff. This is al driven by a demonlanders far fetched scenario being stated as fact. Will be very surprised if this gets any more momentum.

When you say credible journalists, you mean people like Barrett, Ralph and Wilson, who all said they believed Hogan was going home to play with Freo. Or do you mean other credible journalists like Hardie, Langdon and I think Denham initially, who said the same thing. Or do you mean still other credible journalists who get half their stories wrong as well?

 

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

When you say credible journalists, you mean people like Barrett, Ralph and Wilson, who all said they believed Hogan was going home to play with Freo. Or do you mean other credible journalists like Hardie, Langdon and I think Denham initially, who said the same thing. Or do you mean still other credible journalists who get half their stories wrong as well?

 

Would you be more inclined to believe a rumour if none of the aforementioned journos mentioned a thing about it?

The fact of the matter is there has been no talk of Rockliff by any 'officials'.

We all have our sources... and mine says we haven't spoken to him

4 minutes ago, dr.dee said:

Would you be more inclined to believe a rumour if none of the aforementioned journos mentioned a thing about it?

The fact of the matter is there has been no talk of Rockliff by any 'officials'.

We all have our sources... and mine says we haven't spoken to him

Gen Dee's source was from Brisbane.

Do you consider your source gives it to you straight or would they tend to keep things under wraps - under instruction from the club?

Due to all the speculation, I contacted my nephew who is into the footy scene (coaching and development) up north and asked him about Rockcliff. He said he'd met him 3 0r 4 times and found him a genuine down to earth guy.

However, he also stated with some conviction that he did not consider him a leader. He was unaware of any Rockcliff to Demons move.

12 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Due to all the speculation, I contacted my nephew who is into the footy scene (coaching and development) up north and asked him about Rockcliff. He said he'd met him 3 0r 4 times and found him a genuine down to earth guy.

However, he also stated with some conviction that he did not consider him a leader. He was unaware of any Rockcliff to Demons move.

Hasn't been any leaders up here since Joh and he was in the scouts....

13 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Due to all the speculation, I contacted my nephew who is into the footy scene (coaching and development) up north and asked him about Rockcliff. He said he'd met him 3 0r 4 times and found him a genuine down to earth guy.

However, he also stated with some conviction that he did not consider him a leader. He was unaware of any Rockcliff to Demons move.

doesn't need to be a leader; an AA mid is fine

I would assume chris fagan will want to have a talk with rockliff before any deal was done. whether that is with melbourne or someone else. I would love to know why the lack of interest in him? what does every other club seem to know about him that rules him out.

Fagan, noble already spoken with Rockliff

52 minutes ago, Redleg said:

When you say credible journalists, you mean people like Barrett, Ralph and Wilson, who all said they believed Hogan was going home to play with Freo. Or do you mean other credible journalists like Hardie, Langdon and I think Denham initially, who said the same thing. Or do you mean still other credible journalists who get half their stories wrong as well?

 

You can question there credibility but end of the day it is there jobs to be in the scene and break news. Not 1 has said even a whisper of this. 

 

4 minutes ago, olisik said:

You can question there credibility but end of the day it is there jobs to be in the scene and break news. Not 1 has said even a whisper of this. 

 

We will or won't get Rockliff, of that I am 100% certain. Unfortunately there are so many conflicting rumours around, you can't be sure of anything.

What I was showing you, is that these journos don't always know and get it right all the time. Sometimes they simply don't know.

There could be a deal that has been kept very quiet. On the other hand it could be all BS.

We will probably have some idea by 2.00PM  thursday, or maybe not.

 

Edited October 16, 20168 yr by Redleg

48 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Gen Dee's source was from Brisbane.

Do you consider your source gives it to you straight or would they tend to keep things under wraps - under instruction from the club?

My source is generally extremely vague, but in regards to Rockliff they were very blunt.

Just now, dr.dee said:

My source is generally extremely vague, but in regards to Rockliff they were very blunt.

You have 2 sources?

Rockcliff meet with Roos last year to talk about his future and football in general. He walked away ultra impressed with Roos and the MFC. Unlike others here I won't be surprised when we pick up Tom.

My understanding of the issues surrounding Rock at Brisbane is that he has clashed with the rest of the group through being too blunt and harsh over what he sees as a lack of effort, commitment and professionalism. In essence, he's talking to his team the way Neeld did at the MFC and getting a similar response. The media were talking about this last year before it got lost in the narrative surrounding the coaching mess. If that is the case, then his perceived issues could be more about his leadership than his quality as a player. In a more professional side he would be fine.

24 minutes ago, gwsampso said:

Rockcliff meet with Roos last year to talk about his future and football in general. He walked away ultra impressed with Roos and the MFC. Unlike others here I won't be surprised when we pick up Tom.

This guy has an impeccable track record. Interesting.

 

29 minutes ago, gwsampso said:

Rockcliff meet with Roos last year to talk about his future and football in general. He walked away ultra impressed with Roos and the MFC. Unlike others here I won't be surprised when we pick up Tom.

This could be why there is no percieved interest from other clubs regarding Tom... the deal has already been done to join the Dees and because we don't leak this could be why it seems no one is interested.. 

The guy is a 26 year old AA captain entering the prime and because of a few derogatory tweets and the fact he tells it like it is to his hopeless team mates is no reason for there to be no interest in such a quality player.

 

1 minute ago, GCDee said:

This could be why there is no percieved interest from other clubs regarding Tom... the deal has already been done to join the Dees and because we don't leak this could be why it seems no one is interested.. 

The guy is a 26 year old AA captain entering the prime and because of a few derogatory tweets and the fact he tells it like it is to his hopeless team mates is no reason for there to be no interest in such a quality player.

 

We couldn't be that lucky, could we. But we could be that smart, couldn't we?

Definitely don't see him coming to the Dee's this trade period. Though the attitude problem doesn't worry me one bit.

Goodwin would break him down and rebuild him piece by piece. The guy is a psychological genius with these kids. 

Plus the player culture instilled will sort him out in seconds. The boys would instantly give him no choice but to befriend them all and teach him the Roos way of football professionalism. 

26 minutes ago, Sylvia Saint said:

This guy has an impeccable track record. Interesting.

 

He does too, doesn't he? Very interesting, indeed. 

 

10 minutes ago, A F said:

He does too, doesn't he? Very interesting, indeed. 

 

Yes he definitely has connections.  Exciting times.  Will for sure be tuning in the next four days to listen to tosspot Barrett and the gravel-like dulcet tones of Plough Wallace.

Bring on Rockliff.

23 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Yes he definitely has connections.  Exciting times.  Will for sure be tuning in the next four days to listen to tosspot Barrett and the gravel-like dulcet tones of Plough Wallace.

Bring on Rockliff.

Demonland is enough for me.

The rumour mill is normally more quiet on weekends. I tweeted about 12 credible journalists around 2 hours ago asking for confirmation on the Rockliff rumour. Not one has replied. Guessing they just have no idea. I'm sure if there is any truth to it, we would find out tomorrow. Now that there has been a whisper, phoned will be ringing like mad for conformation this week 

1 minute ago, DemonLad5 said:

The rumour mill is normally more quiet on weekends. I tweeted about 12 credible journalists around 2 hours ago asking for confirmation on the Rockliff rumour. Not one has replied. Guessing they just have no idea. I'm sure if there is any truth to it, we would find out tomorrow. Now that there has been a whisper, phoned will be ringing like mad for conformation this week 

And they still won't get anything. Before everything went down last week, Barrett was criticising melbourne for not getting the Hibberd trade done, claiming that we try to do a thousand different things instead of what was right in front of us

Robbo has tweeted that no chats have been had between lions and dees (yet). He isn't normally that straightforward unless he has some intel.

 

I guess they have 4 days to turn the rumour into fact. FWIW my feeling is he won't leave lions

I just don't see why we'd add Lewis if we got Rockliff. I know Rockliff can play forward but he's best on the ball as a clearance player and we'd be getting slow and inside heavy if we added both Rockliff and Lewis. No point dominating the clearances if you can't make use of them with outside runners and skill.

So seeing that Lewis is getting closer to a sure thing I'm choosing to believe Rockliff isn't as likely.