Dee-Nee 91 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 If we thought he was so good, why were we happy to unload him to Richmond?
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Dee-Nee said: If we thought he was so good, why were we happy to unload him to Richmond? Roos was looking for draft picks, with the idea being that we were hoping to package a couple of first rounders together to lure Dangerfield to the club. I'm sure we tested the waters with a number of players, and when Richmond showed interest, we bit.
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Fantastic news. I've followed Jack since his days at Sturt and I'm glad the club has shown faith in his recovery.
Earl Hood 6,167 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 22 minutes ago, picket fence said: HE IS SLOWWWW, the modern game has past him by! What position will he play and whose spot will he take?? Eh? Perhaps he could develop into a role like Luke Hodge floating around half back, reading the play to intercept in a good side where you have some time and space. Hodge I reckon this year is slower than Trenners but he has re-signed for next season. I think there is still a chance for Trenners to play a role where he can play to his strengths and hopefully with a full preseason and some expert guidance regain some speed. If you are not injured how do you lose speed at 25, you should be able to regain it surely if fit.
Magoo 40 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Earl Hood said: Perhaps he could develop into a role like Luke Hodge floating around half back, reading the play to intercept in a good side where you have some time and space. Hodge I reckon this year is slower than Trenners but he has re-signed for next season. I think there is still a chance for Trenners to play a role where he can play to his strengths and hopefully with a full preseason and some expert guidance regain some speed. If you are not injured how do you lose speed at 25, you should be able to regain it surely if fit. Great points - I think they help put this issue in perspective.
Return to Glory 8,518 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Sometimes it goes beyond the on-field. The club's retainment of Trengove speaks of the importance of making decisions which also impact the fabric of the club. We got it wrong with James McDonald et al and it set the club back a long way. There's no denying it. Whilst there's every chance Trengove could falter, the key thing, for mine, is how we treat a respected and courageous clubman. It's the right decision.
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 I'm loving this. Not sure wether trenners will ever get to the ceiling that looked a monty when he first played but I want him to succeed, love the man.
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 44 minutes ago, picket fence said: So we have re signed a SLOW player who will struggle again next season? So what position does everyone see him playing Eh? Brilliant! 40 minutes ago, picket fence said: So common sense and pragmatics don't come into it then?? A wasted extension IMO Jesus Christ, no wonder we never improve with lets be gentle philosophies that really serve no purpose! who Adore players who are waaay past it! Get with the times! And that boys and girls is what they call a troll.....
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 What should Trenners work on to improve over summer? What are his current weaknesses as well as strengths? What value can he bring to the team in terms of position needs, experience and skills? This is fair and reasonable to discuss, I would've thought, without being shouted down. I believe if he cannot improve his speed he will struggle to get games. I really hope our fitness guys can work on this. To our medico posters (Webber), it possible to improve speed, esp after his setbacks? His tank will certainly improve with another preseason. I'm pleased the club has given him another year. Trenners will certainly leave no stone unturned in his efforts to succeed.
Magoo 40 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Return to Glory said: Sometimes it goes beyond the on-field. The club's retainment of Trengove speaks of the importance of making decisions which also impact the fabric of the club. We got it wrong with James McDonald et al and it set the club back a long way. There's no denying it. Whilst there's every chance Trengove could falter, the key thing, for mine, is how we treat a respected and courageous clubman. It's the right decision. Probably just moi, but I'd offer Boomer a 2 year contract with this in mind.
picket fence 18,190 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, Magoo said: Great points - I think they help put this issue in perspective. Still doesn't answer the question.... Whose spot does he take?? HMMMMM?
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Magoo said: Probably just moi, but I'd offer Boomer a 2 year contract with this in mind. I'd much rather get Junior back!
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said: What should Trenners work on to improve over summer? What are his current weaknesses as well as strengths? What value can he bring to the team in terms of position vacancies, experience and skills? This is fair and reasonable to discuss, I would've thought, without being shouted down. I believe if he cannot improve his speed he will struggle to get games. I really hope our fitness guys can work on this. To our medico posters (Webber), it possible to improve speed, esp after his setbacks? His tank will certainly improve with another preseason. I'm pleased the club has given him another year. Trenners will certainly leave no stone unturned in his efforts to succeed. As others have mentioned, a part time sprint coach should be the go here. Trenners should even be able tio use connections through his sister to find someone appropriate. That and penetration in his kicking. His footy smarts, toughnes, disposal and marking ability are all still there.
Chook 15,070 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 51 minutes ago, picket fence said: So common sense and pragmatics don't come into it then?? A wasted extension IMO Jesus Christ, no wonder we never improve with lets be gentle philosophies that really serve no purpose! who Adore players who are waaay past it! Get with the times! This post brought to you from that funky time when James McDonald 'retired'.
picket fence 18,190 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said: And that boys and girls is what they call a troll..... Why?? Why a Troll??? Because I have a very valid opinion?? People like you are the reason that this club still is without a premiership 50 years down the track! A PART TIME SPRINT COACH?? YOU ARE IN NODDY LAND! You can't develop pace< especially when you were never quick to start with! Sentiment? Bah I repeat whose spot will he take?? Time to take a hard nosed approach to this footy club! Clayton Oliver gets dropped just so he can play at Casey?? Cmon He should be in the team WE NEED HIS UNCOMPRIMISING ATTACK ON THE FOOTY! Cmon lighweight! Whose place will Jack Tengove replace in 2017??
picket fence 18,190 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Chook said: This post brought to you from that funky time when James McDonald 'retired'. Cmon Chook, Mc Donald was three times the footballer Trengove ever was!
Earl Hood 6,167 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 10 minutes ago, Moonshadow said: What should Trenners work on to improve over summer? What are his current weaknesses as well as strengths? What value can he bring to the team in terms of position needs, experience and skills? This is fair and reasonable to discuss, I would've thought, without being shouted down. I believe if he cannot improve his speed he will struggle to get games. I really hope our fitness guys can work on this. To our medico posters (Webber), it possible to improve speed, esp after his setbacks? His tank will certainly improve with another preseason. I'm pleased the club has given him another year. Trenners will certainly leave no stone unturned in his efforts to succeed. I ask the same question again if you are not injured how do you lose speed at 25? Most people say he was fast enough at 20, yes he had the foot problem in between but what is it now? He should be mobile enough now to compete.
Biffen 12,949 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, picket fence said: Cmon Chook, Mc Donald was three times the footballer Trengove ever was! McDonald peaked at 34. Which didn't make the premeditated decision to delist him look any better. He was average for a long time before he got the Khyber.
picket fence 18,190 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, Biffen said: McDonald peaked at 34. Which didn't make the premeditated decision to delist him look any better. He was average for a long time before he got the Khyber. Disagree, Junior Mac was a sensational player, still quick,when shafted and a victim of some shizen powerplays between senior club figures! A much better player than Jack Trengove, and deserved better!
Biffen 12,949 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, picket fence said: Disagree, Junior Mac was a sensational player, still quick,when shafted and a victim of some shizen powerplays between senior club figures! A much better player than Jack Trengove, and deserved better! He was good when we cut him but he was lucky to ever even make skipper tbh. let alone play for so long. We made the call maybe a year early but tuff [censored].
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Biffen said: McDonald peaked at 34. Which didn't make the premeditated decision to delist him look any better. He was average for a long time before he got the Khyber. Agree. Junior was a late bloomer.
picket fence 18,190 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, Biffen said: He was good when we cut him but he was lucky to ever even make skipper tbh. let alone play for so long. We made the call maybe a year early but tuff [censored]. And so by the same logic Jack Trengove should now be gone!! But isn't?? ! Brilliant! I REST MY CASE!
bing181 9,474 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 1 hour ago, picket fence said: ... no wonder we never improve That's the problem with most of what you post right there.
picket fence 18,190 Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, bing181 said: That's the problem with most of what you post right there. Really ?? Please explain??
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