3 hours ago, Demon Jack said:

Unless the recruiting team have their eyes on a certain player, I don't really see much need to trade back into the first/second round. Weideman is essentially our first pick this year and we have enough young guys at the club now as it is. 

Agree.  We might have our eye on someone like Hunt and have a fair idea of where the competition is - I think that's why we took him at 57 when we did.  If so we will know whether 57 this year covers us or we need to upgrade.  Dunn + 57 + 59 for 47 could be a win-win anyway if we're only looking to draft 1 and upgrade 2.

9 minutes ago, bingers said:

Is Hibberd a better player than Melksham? Are they similar types? Did MFC need both? Are there any other questions I should be asking? If yes, what are they?

No questons, two good pickups along with Lewis    you need a minimum of 30 AFL ready players each week these days

9 minutes ago, bingers said:

Is Hibberd a better player than Melksham? Are they similar types? Did MFC need both? Are there any other questions I should be asking? If yes, what are they?

Everyone looks great in highlights so take from these what you will.

Melksham - http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2015-10-15/jake-melksham-highlights

Hibberd - http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-10-19/get-excited-by-michael-hibberd

7 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Everyone looks great in highlights so take from these what you will.

Melksham - http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2015-10-15/jake-melksham-highlights

Hibberd - http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-10-19/get-excited-by-michael-hibberd

Hibberd not lacking any G&D and I like his kick. The left footers now on our list approaching Hawk proportions. 

Believe Cam Pedersen re signing was a big factor in Hibberd signing with MFC

Welcome Michael!

Looking forward to seeing you stream out of the backline along side Melksham, Salem and Hunt. We now have a 'warchest' of HBFers that can seriously break the game open (TBC for melky)

My Essendon mate texted me as soon as the deal went through and said "he's a f*&cking fighter, you'll love him"

 

1 hour ago, bingers said:

Is Hibberd a better player than Melksham? Are they similar types? Did MFC need both? Are there any other questions I should be asking? If yes, what are they?

Hibberd is twice the player Melksham is. Ive watched most Essendon games the past 15 years (my old man is an Essendon fanatic). He laughed when they lost Melksham, he wasnt laughing when he found out they were losing Hibberd. Hibberd is actually a gun, he is very very good.

5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

All those interpretations are correct.

Re pick 84 -  Newton's future is also in the balance and would can give us another list spot to fill - then we can use #84 at the draft...

Another general comment: I am keeping the 2016 Contract thread upto date with all changes re demons.  People should look at it before positing scenarios.

 

I'd be astounded if Newton was still on our list next year.

3 hours ago, bingers said:

Is Hibberd a better player than Melksham? Are they similar types? Did MFC need both? Are there any other questions I should be asking? If yes, what are they?

IMO Hibberd is a much better ball user. Hibberd is more defensive, plays as a defender, a good, long kick and is reasonably strong one-on-one. Melksham is a winger that could play off half back or half forward, use his pace and break some lines. But he's not extreme pace like Hunt. Personally, I think Melksham butchers it by foot, but can occasionally kick a good goal. A highly rated junior that crumbled a little bit IMO at AFL level. Will be interesting to see how he adjusts to Melbourne. Particularly with a year out of the game.

A little disappointed that his goals on the run from 50 seem to only just carry the line and don't go thumping over the fence. I thought he had more kicking penetration than that. But he can still hoof it and we don't have a defender who can regular get forward and goal so it's hard to complain there.

I think he'll need time to get back in to peak form and fitness but he's a good all around defender who does everything pretty well. That combination should really help our backline.

2 hours ago, ThreeOneSix said:

Hibberd is twice the player Melksham is. Ive watched most Essendon games the past 15 years (my old man is an Essendon fanatic). He laughed when they lost Melksham, he wasnt laughing when he found out they were losing Hibberd. Hibberd is actually a gun, he is very very good.

And we paid pick 23 for melksham and pick 29 for Hibberd. Its just the way it is sometime. You have to break an egg to make an omelete....

Hibberd is a great pick up for the club and immediately becomes our best halfback flanker. He's good defensively, has a bit of fight in him, and is a good rebounding halfback who can accumulate 20+ possessions easy. He'll be good for guys like Hunt and Salem to learn more off, but also so they can push further up and play on the wings. 29 is a bargain for him. He's borderline All Australian and Cats just gave up a first rounder for Tuohy, who is on par if not worse than Hibberd!

Lewis and Hibberd are both beautiful kicks of the ball, our skill level just got a really timely boost! as well as composure, experienced leaders.

welcome to the club

 

40 minutes ago, Abe said:

Lewis and Hibberd are both beautiful kicks of the ball, our skill level just got a really timely boost! as well as composure, experienced leaders.

And hopefully Salem staying on the park helps this too.

This is a really good pick up in my opinion, something we have lacked is some polish out the half back line (Salem was meant to be that this year but had his Thyroid issues). Now we've got Hibberd, Melksham, (Vince as well), and Salem as options back there plus Hunt with his run and carry. 

Welcome to the Dees Michael!

Edited October 19, 20168 yr by Pates

Geez I'm pumped for round one. Think I'm going to go hibernate to pass the time. Off season is like a car trip interstate when you're a kid. It's better just to sleep it out. 

Joking aside. Hilarious as it was. This is the first time in my rationally thinking life that it feels like we could really go somewhere. The pickups we have secured arent speculative, hopeful (although maybe I am) or stopgaps. They are good players that fill roles we are ready to fill, not desperately need to fill. 

 

TBH i really wanted to shaft Essendon. Tjat is the only thing i ront like about the deal 29 is fair they just dont deserve it

19 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

TBH i really wanted to shaft Essendon. Tjat is the only thing i ront like about the deal 29 is fair they just dont deserve it

We did shaft them.  Hibberd is a ready made gun and if he had nominated another club with a higher pick, he would have gone for that. 

6 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Believe Cam Pedersen re signing was a big factor in Hibberd signing with MFC

Is this a serious comment, or have I missed a joke earlier in this thread? What's the connection?

10 hours ago, AngryAtCasey said:

Next move.  Dunn, Pick 57 & 59 (340 points) to the filth for Picks 47 (316) & 83 (0) .  Puts them in a better position re father/sons.

The trade next years future 2nd Round Pick to Saints for 36.

Instead of Pick 47 in this scenario, would it be worth more to us to try for their next years 3rd round pick? 

32 minutes ago, xarronn said:

Is this a serious comment, or have I missed a joke earlier in this thread? What's the connection?

Lewis said Hogan signing played a part in him coming to the Dees. Saty has made a joke

38 minutes ago, xarronn said:

Is this a serious comment, or have I missed a joke earlier in this thread? What's the connection?

You know ... coz Lewis said Hogan signing was a big factor ... take it down a notch in class for Hibberd/Pedo ... oh never mind.