Along with a Key Defender to help T-Mac, the foward/ruck position is one that needs serious addressing at this club.

Vardy would be cheap and an excellent option to help out fwd line and give Gawny a chop-out. Injury history, yes, but worth the punt.

Spencer is not the option and is only required if Gawn was to get injured again. Dawes is done. Pedo I'm happy with but doesn't seem to get a look in, and our young talls are unknown or just forwards.

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Why waste a spot on our list on a bloke who is injured all the time? 

Not worth it at all. We need players who are ready to go, not blokes who struggle to get on the park. 

Would rather Majak Daw.

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Would rather Majak Daw.

Yep definately more upside!!

56 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yep definately more upside!!

Yep Dawes, big guy who can't play football, that's what we need.

Vardy is toast, forget it.

If and its a big if he passed all the medical testing I would entertain Vardy. Showed early doors pre hip and knee injuries that he could play. Would fill the presently vacant fwd/ruck roll and create some major headaches for opposition defenders. Furthermore I don't think he would cost a lot.

imagine:

Watts   Hogan  Petracca

Kent     Vardy   Garlett 

 

Edited July 5, 20169 yr by Steve13

Is struggling at VFL level big time. 

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Is struggling at VFL level big time. 

I live in Geelong and have watched him on numerous occasions this season...wouldn't exactly say he's struggling - can't get a run in the seniors behind Smith, Stanley, Blicavs and Hawkins

19 minutes ago, Steve13 said:

If and its a big if he passed all the medical testing I would entertain Vardy. Showed early doors pre hip and knee injuries that he could play. Would fill the presently vacant fwd/ruck roll and create some major headaches for opposition defenders. Furthermore I don't think he would cost a lot.

imagine:

Watts   Hogan  Petracca

Kent     Vardy   Garlett 

 

Replace Vardy with Weideman and get even more excited

20 minutes ago, Red and Blue Flame said:

I live in Geelong and have watched him on numerous occasions this season...wouldn't exactly say he's struggling - can't get a run in the seniors behind Smith, Stanley, Blicavs and Hawkins

And with Mitch coming back for the cats it looks like move on time for him..

Massive talent...can he do a Gawn and get back on the park consistently.

 

 

If we got him and he could offer the type of year we got from Peter Vardy in 2002, then I'm up for another Vardy?

25yo,  25 games.  avg disposals 8.3  avg score 1.36  avg marks 2.76  average tackles 2.1  avg hitouts 11.48

doesn't exactly set the world on fire

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

25yo,  25 games.  avg disposals 8.3  avg score 1.36  avg marks 2.76  average tackles 2.1  avg hitouts 11.48

doesn't exactly set the world on fire

big men should never be judged on disposals. hitting scoreboard and providing ruck relief in this case, yes. missed pre-season so stats dont look great but serving a role for MFC next year if fit could be worth the punt. Look at Gawn

wouldn't cost a lot to bring him in you wouldn't have thought, either trade-wise or contract size.

 

we could have him sitting in our medical room for a prolonged period of time or we could have him create an immediate impact as a third tall / ruck - something we're desperately in need of having alongside hogan and watts, even if the latter has done far better than expected as a spare parts ruckman.

3 minutes ago, Red and Blue Flame said:

big men should never be judged on disposals. hitting scoreboard and providing ruck relief in this case, yes. missed pre-season so stats dont look great but serving a role for MFC next year if fit could be worth the punt. Look at Gawn

could see a role as depth. wouldn't expect to be a starting 22. speculative, ok if cheap

But can he still play at Top Level?

no use wasting a spot on the list if he can't play

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

no use wasting a spot on the list if he can't play

Agree, WYL. We already have Spencer on the list, don't need another sub-afl ruckman taking up another spot.

3 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Agree, WYL. We already have Spencer on the list, don't need another sub-afl ruckman taking up another spot.

The days of taking Reject Project Players just in case they make it have to be gone. 

 

Spencer has yet to prove himself as a forward option in an AFL game - closest thing was game down at Cattery last year. Vardy has proven on mulitple occasions of playing at AFL level in both positions.  He (Vardy) has now played 6 or 7 games in a row in the VFL starting to get continuity into his body and is younger and better than Spencer. If it was for a third or fourth round draft pick i'd be jumping at it. Our ruck stocks are EXTREMELY low, and having spoken to someone at the club I know that we will be going after a back-up ruckman/fwd player to help provide a chop-out for Gawn. As usual on DL, I will get hosed down for what this conversation entailed, but there were no mentions of players - just that we needed a "Tippett" fwd/pinch ruck player; Vardy is one that screams this to me that could come cheap.

 

I remember watching him play in the seniors a couple years ago and he looked very dangerous as a forward option. Saying that, reviews of his performances this season seem to show that he is way off the mark at the moment.

http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/114802/Nathan-VARDY

If he regains some touch by the end of the year then he may not be the worst option. Wouldn't give him any more than a spot on the rookie list though.

Edited July 5, 20169 yr by Demon Jack

28 minutes ago, Red and Blue Flame said:

Spencer has yet to prove himself as a forward option in an AFL game - closest thing was game down at Cattery last year. Vardy has proven on mulitple occasions of playing at AFL level in both positions.  He (Vardy) has now played 6 or 7 games in a row in the VFL starting to get continuity into his body and is younger and better than Spencer. If it was for a third or fourth round draft pick i'd be jumping at it. Our ruck stocks are EXTREMELY low, and having spoken to someone at the club I know that we will be going after a back-up ruckman/fwd player to help provide a chop-out for Gawn. As usual on DL, I will get hosed down for what this conversation entailed, but there were no mentions of players - just that we needed a "Tippett" fwd/pinch ruck player; Vardy is one that screams this to me that could come cheap.

 

Couldn't agree more, Vickery is another. Tippet would be perfect but players like that don't grow on trees.

 

I think we need a foward who can ruck. Dawes can't/won't and Watts is being serviceable but not the answer. Either Huttlet or go shopping

22 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Why waste a spot on our list on a bloke who is injured all the time? 

Not worth it at all. We need players who are ready to go, not blokes who struggle to get on the park. 

Interesting call Wiseblood, especially since he has now played almost the entire season at VFL level and appears over his chronic injury.

Would you be so cruel about Jack Trengove - who is in virtually the same boat and plays in a position where he has more options to get a game than a forward/ruckman.

I would also have thought that taking a punt on a forward who can ruck is a very likely draft scenario next year - especially given we are likely to say goodbye to Pedo, King and maybe Dawes at season's end.

Sure we may all want to rush the Weed along, but as yet he has not shown enough at VFL level.

Apart from Vardy, Vickery, Tomlinson and Daw would also potentially fill the forward/ruck spot that we need to find - so it's pleasing that a few names are starting to crop up as being forced to be on the move because we certainly have struggled in the past to get the most-sought after option - Hale was a classic example.

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

But can he still play at Top Level?

no use wasting a spot on the list if he can't play

Coz we've never done that before...