5 minutes ago, Copuchas said:

With you on Kennedy and Garland for Harmes and Omac and would like to see Grimes get an opportunity.  However, a) don't think they'll make 3 further changes after 5 last week (unless by some travesty Bernie is suspended); b) Vandenberg has to be given an opportunity to find form (as do Dawes and Trengove).  And none of the three were horrible.

Yeah, I don't think vB was horrible, but he'd only played half a game for Casey before coming back and I'm worried his fitness isn't up to scratch yet. You're right that 3 changes might seem a lot this week so the Grimes/vB one is least likely, but I'd just rather go in with a fresh and fit team.

 

18 minutes ago, Copuchas said:

With you on Kennedy and Garland for Harmes and Omac and would like to see Grimes get an opportunity.  However, a) don't think they'll make 3 further changes after 5 last week (unless by some travesty Bernie is suspended); b) Vandenberg has to be given an opportunity to find form (as do Dawes and Trengove).  And none of the three were horrible.

Garland is another fortnight off with his cheekbone so forget his return next week. 

Just now, CBDees said:

Garland is another fortnight off with his cheekbone so forget his return next week. 

not according to Misson....see the last injury update on the website

4 minutes ago, Copuchas said:

not according to Misson....see the last injury update on the website

I reckon I could give you a more accurate and on-the-money- assessment tbh.

Just now, stevethemanjordan said:

I reckon I could give you a more accurate and on-the-money- assessment tbh.

a hairline cheekbone fracture is often only a week.  Cotchin was touch and go to play after a week.  And we play on Monday.  

OUT: Harmes, Omac

IN: Kennedy, Garland/Lumumba (Depending who is fit)

1 hour ago, stuie said:

IN: Kennedy, Grimes, Garland
OUT: Harmes, vB, OMac

I know, I know, Grimes and Garland. But we need some experience in the backline, it's falling apart. Grimes has been consistently good for Casey and I have a feeling Garls will come back in. Grimes in also means we can keep Vince in the middle more which is important as evidenced by his game on Saturday.

Harmes needs a spell, has been inconsistent the last few weeks, BenKen had a ripper game and will definitely come straight back in. vB wasn't terrible on the weekend, but didn't look 100% and he didn't impact enough, let him get a bit of fitness back at Casey until the bye I reckon.

 

I Garland fit? I thought he would miss 3 weeks.

Just now, Fat Tony said:

I Garland fit? I thought he would miss 3 weeks.

Apparently Misson said he'd be 100% right for QB.

I'm not a big fan of Grimes or Garland, but I just think they might get a call up for the sake of experience, and in Grimes' case, rewarding VFL form.

 

35 minutes ago, Copuchas said:

a hairline cheekbone fracture is often only a week.  Cotchin was touch and go to play after a week.  And we play on Monday.  

Might see another player rockin' the head gear

17 minutes ago, juzzk1d said:

OUT: Harmes, Omac

IN: Kennedy, Garland/Lumumba (Depending who is fit)

I will be very unhappy if they play Lumumba after so long out, he surely needs a week or maybe 2 in the VFL before coming back, just for the run. But assuming Garlo is right to go then I think changes are spot on.

17 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I didn't particularly rate Dawes' game yesterday but they're not going to drop Dawes after one game.

Have we dropped anyone this season after one game? I'm not sure. We gave Michie, ANB and Newton at least two games each.

Stretch played against North then out the next week?

Jetta Frost Garland

N Jones T McDonald Wagner

Stretch Tyson Bugg

Petracca Hogan Kennedy

Garlett Watts Kent

Gawn Vince Oliver

Grimes Hunt Trengove Vandenberg

IN Kennedy Grimes Garland (if fit)

OUT Dawes O McDonald Harmes (if Garland fit)

• Kennedy should never have been dropped.
• I understand it was wet against Hawthorn, but Dawes doesn’t provide enough in the air to play as a permanent forward. So I prefer the balance of our side with an extra runner and Watts continuing to play second ruck.
• Grimes has been in good form in the VFL and will offer more than Oscar this week. If Garland is still unavailable, it means our defence is shorter but it still includes T McDonald, Frost and Wagner.
• I would play the skipper in defence. As much as we lose grunt in the middle from shifting Jones back, we gain his kicking and intensity in the back half.
• I also think that if Trengove is going to play, he needs to play more of a defensive inside role. Jones shifting back allows him to play this role.
• Kent was better against Hawthorn than Port.
• Harmes has been quiet and is looking tired. He only misses if Garland is fit though.

28 minutes ago, stuie said:

Apparently Misson said he'd be 100% right for QB.

 

 

So he's 2-3 weeks away.

Not too sure why people are suggesting to change the back 6.. They were under extreme pressure in the last part of the 3rd quarter and 4th quarter and held up quite well. The only change is if someone is injured or sore.

As for the Midfield - should remain the same, with Spencer the only possible inclusion depending on the Pies ruck choices and the weather. If wet then Gawn will ruck by himself.

Forward line, Kennedy to come back in for Harmes as the only change. Dawes will be much better next week with Jesse and I am sure Garlett will also set himself for a blinder.

Looking forward to seeing more of Dom Tyson and Petracca in the middle for longer.

THe  changes after Port were almost wholesale by Roos' std. He's more incremental. I expect a return to that with only Harmes for Kennedy as a change.

Normal programming resumed

I see that Casey v Collingwood is the televised game on Saturday (2pm):

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=91640&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=34956277

Aside: on Sunday July 3rd we play the Crows at the MCG at 3:20pm and Casey play the Toigs at Punt Road at 2pm (game also televised). An 11:30 AM start time would have suited us, given that Richmond play July 1st.

Edited June 6, 20169 yr by M_9

13 hours ago, GoodAsGawn said:

Do we know why Dunny isn't in the side? I heard a rumour that he turned up to training drunk/hungover..... hence being out of favour and loosing the Vice captaincy.... Can anyone confirm this? or has anyone heard a similar story?
I heard this from a MFC Hall of Famer... that we are family friends of.... Although long since retired and not in the inner sanctum.
I just want to be clear (as i posted something last time with a slight misunderstanding and got ripped to shreds on here)
Sooo this is something i have heard, only here-say until other people can corroborate it.
 

Would explain things 

4 hours ago, stuie said:

Apparently Misson said he'd be 100% right for QB.

 

 

Then he is 100% not playing. 

2 hours ago, M_9 said:

I see that Casey v Collingwood is the televised game on Saturday (2pm):

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=91640&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=34956277

Aside: on Sunday July 3rd we play the Crows at the MCG at 3:20pm and Casey play the Toigs at Punt Road at 2pm (game also televised). An 11:30 AM start time would have suited us, given that Richmond play July 1st.

Ta. Still a 2pm start means i can catch thye firts half then wander over to the g for the crows game. There should be more of these opportunities.

Why is everyone dropping O Mac despite him playing his career best game?

i reckon his older sibling made triple the amount of mistakes than O Mac did.

Again, Cloke and Cox loom as extremely dangerous for Collingwood..

I'm already having nightmares about it.

One of them could possibly kick 8 goals.

 

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Why is everyone dropping O Mac despite him playing his career best game?

i reckon his older sibling made triple the amount of mistakes than O Mac did.

Career best game? WTF? Were you at the game? Actually, did you even watch it? You've just looked at disposal stats haven't you?

 

6 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Again, Cloke and Cox loom as extremely dangerous for Collingwood..

I'm already having nightmares about it.

One of them could possibly kick 8 goals.

 

Pfft. Those two wont get 4 between them. Hell the Pies will struggle to kick 8 collectively. 

I really hope Cloke gets selected. He is a complete liability. He doesn't do scoreboard damage and provides no run or forward pressure. For pete's sakes he barley scored a goal whilst in the VFL.

All the hoo ha about Cox is based on the story not the reality. I'll worry when he starts getting more than 10 disposals. 

Edited June 6, 20169 yr by binman

1 minute ago, binman said:

Pfft. Those two wont get 4 between them. Hell the Pies will struggle to kick 8 collectively. 

I really hope Cloke gets selected. He is a complete liability. He doesn't do scoreboard damage and provides no run or forward pressure. For pete's sakes he barley scored a goal whilst in the VFL.

All the hoo ha about Cox is based on the story not the reality. I'll worry when he starts getting more than 10 disposals. 

Cloke will be rubbing his hands together for Monday. Our defence needs to be solid regardless of their form to date.

16 minutes ago, H_T said:

Cloke will be rubbing his hands together for Monday. Our defence needs to be solid regardless of their form to date.

did he play when we beat them earlier in the year?  Cant recall

5 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

did he play when we beat them earlier in the year?  Cant recall

Doesn't matter, he'll be wanting to make a statement on the biggest stage QB.