35 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Danger game this week... our heads get inflated after a win. Game v Bombers showed not to just "turn up".

ins... Vince and Garlett

out... Hunt and Oliver

Stat over at Demonblog. Of the last 16 times we have gone in as favourites we have won 4. I don't know about you guys but four almost feels too generous

8 hours ago, JackoTheMuss said:

Who plays on Riewoldt? 

One game of the year I miss Frawley

Anyone asking about Brayshaw hit. He got absloutely crunched by a Collingwood players hip unsure which Pie it was but seen it on the replay today sometime In the 3rd QTR, commentators also missed it and was not mentioned when it happened. Watch the replay and you will see it Punt road end.

Cant see too many changes other than Vince straight in, Garlett in if fit.

Cant see them dropping Wagner or Hunt after their performances.

Might be a good chance to rest Oliver, not that he played poorly, but purely to manage the battering he is and will continue to get through the season.

Sadly it may be one of Frost or Pedo that makes way, though neither deserve it.....nobody deserves to be dropped actually, one of the better team efforts in many years. 

 

10 minutes ago, ashdemons22 said:

Anyone asking about Brayshaw hit. He got absloutely crunched by a Collingwood players hip unsure which Pie it was but seen it on the replay today sometime In the 3rd QTR, commentators also missed it and was not mentioned when it happened. Watch the replay and you will see it Punt road end.

Had a concussion test at 3/4 time. Looked dazed in the huddle!

4 hours ago, AdamFarr said:

Viney's become pretty good at it too. Would love Mr Miyagi to try it on Viney.

McDonald.

 

12 minutes ago, fndee said:

One game of the year I miss Frawley

Forget Chip, he's poos and wees now.

Hmm, I worry about TMac getting caught behind too much given the way Riewoldt leads up. Perhaps Wagner can help out, also might cover him when he floats up the ground.

Hunt was okay, he's had a taste,now he needs to go back to Casey and learn how to use the pace he's been blessed with. Vince straight in for him. Not sure who goes out for Garlett? Pedo? Bit harsh on him, but Frost won't be dropped. Petracca maybe in if Brayshaw doesn't come up, or they think Oliver needs a rest.

Edited April 18, 20169 yr by leucopogon

I believe Melbourne, Richmond and the AFL have come to an agreement for this match. 

Both teams can have an extra 3 players on the bench - at our request. 

Hardwick agreed, as long as he can call the game off early when it's not going well. 

1 hour ago, JackoTheMuss said:

 

Forget Chip, he's poos and wees now.

Hmm, I worry about TMac getting caught behind too much given the way Riewoldt leads up. Perhaps Wagner can help out, also might cover him when he floats up the ground.

Ultimately, our new zonal defence will be fighting Riewoldt, so Tommy won't be battling alone.

Edited April 18, 20169 yr by AdamFarr

14 hours ago, JackoTheMuss said:

Who plays on Riewoldt? 

 

The same guy who held him goalless last season when we trounced them - Tom McDonald

I thought Brayshaw was ok on the weekend.  Didn't start but was a solid game for a second year player.  The playing thing is that we are not expecting our second year players to star or to be one of our best. 

15 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It is very difficult to tell when watching the game on TV how well defenders are doing their job. As the TV generally follows the ball, you can't necessarily get a sense of what defenders are doing to prevent their opponents from getting to the ball and how hard they work off the ball. However, what was noticeable about Dunn's game yesterday was the excellence of his kicking. I believe he has completely changed his kicking so that rather than the long but high kicks which covered distance but gave every man and his dog time to get under them, he now delivers more direct, low passes which hit their targets more quickly. Whether it's Dunn alone, or the coaches who have made that change, kudos. It makes Dunn's kicking a much more powerful weapon. (Now it's time for someone to teach that skill to Garland).  

Well doesnt matter who corrected the kicking,it should have happened years ago. Cannot believe the coaches allowed high slow ball kicking at anytime. Made for more presssure so happy it appears to be fixed

9 hours ago, Hell Bent said:

Had a concussion test at 3/4 time. Looked dazed in the huddle!

He broke the first rule of film by staring straight into the camera. Though I really felt like we connected in that moment.

9 hours ago, ashdemons22 said:

Anyone asking about Brayshaw hit. He got absloutely crunched by a Collingwood players hip unsure which Pie it was but seen it on the replay today sometime In the 3rd QTR, commentators also missed it and was not mentioned when it happened. Watch the replay and you will see it Punt road end.

Yeah watched the replay last night and instantly remembered, im not really sure how i forgot, it happened right infront of us. We were surprised he got up face hit the dirt and looked out of it for a bit, tough little bugger and thats why we love him.

21 hours ago, mo64 said:

After watching the game again, Bugg's stats flattered him. Very few of his possessions were creative, and his disposal is poor. He does offer defensive pressure, but I think others offer more. Frost had his best game, but still made a lot of errors, and not sure that he's required against the Tigers.

That's the way I saw Bugg's game.  He would have been a walk up start for every game over the last 5 seasons, but now that level of untidiness in disposal won't keep getting you a game.

Agree on Frost too.

9 minutes ago, S_T said:

That's the way I saw Bugg's game.  He would have been a walk up start for every game over the last 5 seasons, but now that level of untidiness in disposal won't keep getting you a game.

Agree on Frost too.

You don't get dropped after 29 and 9 tackles in a win....... It's illegal

Outs

Oliver, Bugg, Pederson 

Ins

Vince Garlett (If fit) Petracca

I think this is the best game to unleash TRAC, if we can get the win it will be great for morale and will boost him even more playing in a winning team under lights at the G 

He ran out the game well on the weekend so fitness wise should not be too bad, Put him on a HFF so he can ease into it

 

I understand Bugg was servicable on the weekend, but if we are truly to move up the ladder we need to be ruthless and cannot accept continuous poor disposal

Edited April 18, 20169 yr by Demon_Tingles

Petracca is only up to 85% game time at VFL level.

He's not ready. Simple as that.

 

10 minutes ago, stuie said:

Petracca is only up to 85% game time at VFL level.

He's not ready. Simple as that.

 

This is all talk from the coaches, There are a lot of players who play 85% game time even at AFL level, he is pulling up fine from games so then he will be ready. I understand they want to be cautious but as I said no one plays 100% game time at AFL level or VFL level anyway 

2 minutes ago, Demon_Tingles said:

This is all talk from the coaches, There are a lot of players who play 85% game time even at AFL level, he is pulling up fine from games so then he will be ready. I understand they want to be cautious but as I said no one plays 100% game time at AFL level or VFL level anyway 

85% game time at VFL level is a long way off 85% game time at AFL level.

He's just not ready, and after the selection committee messed up in round 2 we won't be taking chances.

 

Liking the management of Tracc. Another game or 2 at Casey. Get more gametime into him. Bang down the door harder.

Vince in for Oliver (rest)

If fit, Garlett for Bugg or MJones. As much as those 2 are playing well, Garlett is an upgrade.

4 minutes ago, Demon_Tingles said:

This is all talk from the coaches, There are a lot of players who play 85% game time even at AFL level, he is pulling up fine from games so then he will be ready. I understand they want to be cautious but as I said no one plays 100% game time at AFL level or VFL level anyway 

Yeah you're right but he played 85% for the first time and with alot of time resting (i know its not a huge rest but not as hard as in the midfield) forward, give him time he will get there. A few more weeks all around 80-90% and he will get his chance. He is a class above already so he will get call up as soon as he is ready.

9 minutes ago, stuie said:

85% game time at VFL level is a long way off 85% game time at AFL level.

He's just not ready, and after the selection committee messed up in round 2 we won't be taking chances.

 

I also think the percentage of game time can be misleading.

Brayshaw found out ( as did the selectors) that the inability to go flat out for sustained periods whilst you are on the ground will cost the team at AFL level. 

Oliver has had limited time but his time on ground has been at frantic AFL pace.

From reports of last week at Casey even at limited time Petracca was struggling in the last quarter - which means at AFL level he would be shot.

I want Petracca to play as badly as the next (Melbourne) man. There is no knock on his ability, there is confidence in his knee - they just need to be sure that he can go hard the time he is on the ground. There is no substitute for game time in your legs and that is exactly what Petracca is getting at Casey.

 

16 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

I want to see NeckTatts try to "don't argue" Viney. Jack can then mount arm above the fireplace.

 

16 hours ago, AdamFarr said:

Viney's become pretty good at it too. Would love Mr Miyagi to try it on Viney.

 

Haha. Yeah pretty sure he has a St.Kilda players arm above the fireplace ....

 

 

11 hours ago, ashdemons22 said:

Anyone asking about Brayshaw hit. He got absloutely crunched by a Collingwood players hip unsure which Pie it was but seen it on the replay today sometime In the 3rd QTR, commentators also missed it and was not mentioned when it happened. Watch the replay and you will see it Punt road end.

Oxley.

Don't mind the Tiges, long suffering supporters like the Dee's who have endured years of despair and disappointment. In more recent years they have had to suffer the ignominy of being called chokers.  Despite my Marxist views, I do see the value of the Indian caste system. It is the glue that keeps Indian society together although increasingly it is being challenged by the evils of capitalism. However, the Dalits or untouchables are a proud caste in their own way. I see the same characteristics of Tiges supporters. They have little hope of achieving Nirvana or even a better life in the next life.  The Melbourne Brahmins just need to watch their step as they walk through Yarra Park particularly around the trees and light towers where Tige supporters tend to urinate and defecate. It's always an idea to have a banana or apple to give them. Having some lose change is also recommended as part of having a charitable disposition. Food is always better than money so that they don't use the change for cigarettes or bourbon and coke.