Fair enough, MW. Collingwood die-hards might not agree with you.

I guess I'm more of a sentimentalist. I'm old. I attended the 1964 grand final. I liked the 'good old days'. But each to his own.

When a player is on an AFL list the most important thing to them is their teammates. If there's no "go home" factor then there will be little to worry about - assuming he's playing in a successful side.

The bummers want a tall KPP and a mid fielder.

If we don't take Weideman, they will probably take him and Curnow who has the versatility to play forward, back or midfield.

We then get left with Parish and Francis. Not bad mind you, but a good tall and a Midfielder looks better.

No way we pick him at 3 that would be a terrible pick

If he gets picked at 3 it's because they believe he'll be able to produce his best consistently enough to be worth it. Frankly who has a clue this year other than professionals who have watched them over a number of years. I trust in Taylor & Co. The more I read the less clear I am. Our picks are a lottery this year. Any of a number of players could end up being the best in this draft and others could be dudds. We won't know for about 3-4 years. Big bodies like Oliver and Curnow might impact early while we might have to wait a few years for Parish. Actually that sounds a hell of a lot like Toumpas. Aaahhh! I rest my case. Who knows.

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His testing results are in. Obviously didn't test well so i dont know if that has any bearing from our point of view.

3.21 20m sprint

12.4 beep.

Not great numbers. But considering his injuries and size not the end of the world either. I don't think those numbers would prevent you from drafting him. But they aren't impressive.

3.21 20m sprint

12.4 beep.

Not great numbers. But considering his injuries and size not the end of the world either. I don't think those numbers would prevent you from drafting him. But they aren't impressive.

Yep makes me think pick 7 instead of 3 for him.. if Bombers pick him with 4/5 then id go Harry M at 7

Dreadful numbers those

Parish is our pick 3 - back it in . Weideman is our likely second pick.

Dreadful numbers those

Yep. The beep test is just as important for a key forward as it is for a mid. Without repetitive efforts and defensive accountability, he'll struggle at AFL level.

Today is a hot day which needs to be taken into consideration for those numbers.

Different conditions.

Also our pick 46 and 50 can become picks 34 and 38 if teams burnt through a lot of points on academy players. A player like Rioli could potentially skip through.

Yep makes me think pick 7 instead of 3 for him..

Not sure I see the point in that...

beep tests and sprint times mean very little to me. As i recall, Watts had a very impressive 20m sprint time (doesn't show on the footy field).

Hasn't played since May this year after having his second bout of ankle surgery so I've heard. Not only that, he's a stay at home Full Forward.

Yet posters are concerned with his beep test and 20 metre sprint test results?

Absurd.

Clubs would be happy in knowing that he was able to complete these tests. Simply.

There's nothing else to it.

WTF were y'all expecting?

It's a tick off the list in my eyes. Had he not been able to complete the tests due to persisting injuries, it'd be different.

But it's not.

Wonder what Jake Stringer and Lever would have scored in these tests 6 months after serious injuries...

Hasn't played since May this year after having his second bout of ankle surgery so I've heard. Not only that, he's a stay at home Full Forward.

Yet posters are concerned with his beep test and 20 metre sprint test results?

Absurd.

Clubs would be happy in knowing that he was able to complete these tests. Simply.

There's nothing else to it.

WTF were y'all expecting?

It's a tick off the list in my eyes. Had he not been able to complete the tests due to persisting injuries, it'd be different.

But it's not.

Wonder what Jake Stringer and Lever would have scored in these tests 6 months after serious injuries...

But what if it's more of an impact of the iron deficiency he's had for a couple of years (before the ankle injury)?

Hasn't played since May this year after having his second bout of ankle surgery so I've heard. Not only that, he's a stay at home Full Forward.

Yet posters are concerned with his beep test and 20 metre sprint test results?

Absurd.

Clubs would be happy in knowing that he was able to complete these tests. Simply.

There's nothing else to it.

WTF were y'all expecting?

It's a tick off the list in my eyes. Had he not been able to complete the tests due to persisting injuries, it'd be different.

But it's not.

Wonder what Jake Stringer and Lever would have scored in these tests 6 months after serious injuries...

He has fully recovered from his injury. If it still is restricting him then it's gonna be like that his entire career

He has fully recovered from his injury. If it still is restricting him then it's gonna be like that his entire career

We should get a thorough report from the Richmond doctor soon enough.

That beep is a disgrace.......

Even with recent injuries, he is meant to be preparing to be an AFL player and you'd think he would push himself right to the limit.

That beep is a disgrace.......

Even with recent injuries, he is meant to be preparing to be an AFL player and you'd think he would push himself right to the limit.

My best mate got a 12.8 when he was 10...

That clip is the first I've seen of Weideman and he looks class.

more interested in the medical, esp scan results

That clip is the first I've seen of Weideman and he looks class.

which clip....link?

So is it possible that Collingwood says don't extend yourself fully Sam and you may get through to us? It's one big conspiracy.

which clip....link?

ta, i've seen that one........thought he was referring to something different

Clearly the beep test is very important as demonstrated by the record holders...

1 16.06 Billy Hartung 2013 2 16.02 Joshua Schoenfeld 2015 3 16.01 Caleb Daniel 2014 16.01 Jack Hiscox 2014 16.01 Brad Hill 2011 6 15.12 Will Hoskin-Elliott 2011 7 15.09 Nathan Drummond 2014 8 15.08 Tom Rischbieth 2005 15.08 Mark Berts 2000 10 15.07 Tom Sheridan 2011 15.07 Hayden Hector 2010