Webber 10,650 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Big trade chat on ABC grandstand an hour ago with industry insiders. Melksham straight swap to Dees for second round pick on 4 year deal is done they reckon. Of all the trade talk they discussed they were surer of this than any others. 1 Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Big trade chat on ABC grandstand an hour ago with industry insiders. Melksham straight swap to Dees for second round pick on 4 year deal is done they reckon. Of all the trade talk they discussed they were surer of this than any others. If true, it's a poor trade from our end! 1 Quote
mo64 5,911 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Big trade chat on ABC grandstand an hour ago with industry insiders. Melksham straight swap to Dees for second round pick on 4 year deal is done they reckon. Of all the trade talk they discussed they were surer of this than any others. Who are the industry insiders? I immediately equate our 2nd rounder as being around pick 20/21. This year, once FA compensation is allocated, it may be around pick 25. Admittedly it's supposedly a shallow draft, but I still think it's overs. Quote
Moneider96 1,045 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Big trade chat on ABC grandstand an hour ago with industry insiders. Melksham straight swap to Dees for second round pick on 4 year deal is done they reckon. Of all the trade talk they discussed they were surer of this than any others. Will be very angry if that happens. Essendon should at least give us a 3rd rounder back. Quote
Webber 10,650 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Who are the industry insiders? I immediately equate our 2nd rounder as being around pick 20/21. This year, once FA compensation is allocated, it may be around pick 25. Admittedly it's supposedly a shallow draft, but I still think it's overs. Above pick 25 apparently, which is being talked of as a quality marker. The panel all thought it was a good deal and fair, and very Roos-like with its efficiency. 1 Quote
Canplay 635 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Big trade chat on ABC grandstand an hour ago with industry insiders. Melksham straight swap to Dees for second round pick on 4 year deal is done they reckon. Of all the trade talk they discussed they were surer of this than any others. That trade is reasonable. Weak draft - our pick 24 is like 40 any other year. No guarantees with that pick. 1 Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Don't like trading off our second rounder so quickly. In the past we have used it very resourcefully and I think we could use it for a better deal then Melksham. This leaves us with just our first and third rounder left to trade out 1 Quote
rpfc 29,030 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Was there significant criticism of Bernie Vince when we traded for him? Can't remember. At this stage of the Vince rumours: prob not quite the plyer we are after. Id like sloane. Not sure, would need to know what else was available but I would probably look at it this way. He will be 28 by next season, he's apparently a good guy who likes a to have a good time with his mates but is an unfulfilled talent. Sound like someone we know? I think we just hold on to Col, I'm not sure Bernie is going to add a lot to the mix now. Think is best is past him and would not trade anything in the first two rounds for him. Don't get me wrong he is a good ordinary player who had a couple of really good years but there are plenty of them out there who fail to reach those standards again, therefore IMO they are not worth trading decent picks away for What are we toping up for a flag! g only a team toping up whould trade a first rounder for a player like vince I reckon they'd be eying off our second rounder. I wouldn't take Vince for our second rounder either. Excitement level: David Rhodan I was talking about Vince. Another aging fringe midfielder. Forgive me for not doing backflips. You want some optimism? Excuse me while I search for some. I'm not getting any with Vince I give you the mail. I understand we need midfielders and believe Vince would add to our team, but we should not be going after fairly average 28 year olds that cost high draft picks and command a big salary for four years IMO. Agree. Pick 20 is overs for Vince. People have mentioned he will be then 2nd best mid while pick 20 might not make it. Are posters so certain with Vince? He can play but there are 2 Bernie Vinces. Ask any Crow supporter and they will tell you, he strings together some rubbish games. 28 year old too. Pick 20, Pick 36 for Bernie Vince, Lyon and Pick 42 would be my go. I actually like Lyon more then Vince. That was 4 seasons ago. Now he's a contributor, and a relatively inconsistent one at that...his best is better than Sylvia, but it'd be a fairly like for like replacement. 9 Quote
SaberFang 7,151 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) Not happy with that deal at all. Pick 23 got us Frost, O-Mac and ANB last year and this year we want to settle for [censored] Melksham? A kid who may be ineligible to play for two years?? Abhorrent list management if true considering the huge risk he brings. Don't forget that players like Nat Fyfe have been taken in the 20's. Edited September 19, 2015 by Lamashtu 2 Quote
Webber 10,650 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 At this stage of the Vince rumours:Absolute gold rpfc! Just proves that nobody really knows anything. 5 Quote
Jesse Christ 2,884 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 This has to be a joke, 2nd rounder and 4 years for this watermelon when someone of his calibre could surely be found lurking in a Lower level (Vanders for example), whose call is this? The ASADA thing too, this is so so dumb! Just when you thought things were turning around 4 Quote
DubDee 26,681 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Second rounder for melksham! Fark me! Can only pray this isn't true. 1 Quote
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 If it's for a second round pick, I'm content with this trade. He'll improve our list, slightly. Still praying for a Prestia, O'Meara or Bennell though. Quote
SaberFang 7,151 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) On exposed form, Bernie Vince had shown far more when we took him than Melksham ever has, including winning Adelaide's B&F. He also wasn't facing the possibility of two year bans from WADA. Edited September 19, 2015 by Lamashtu 1 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,389 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) At least wait until the deal is done and made public during trade week before you all bust a poopa valve... Edited September 19, 2015 by Ethan Tremblay 1 Quote
faultydet 7,623 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Wada, just, WADA I hate to see the bummers get any value from players who are about to be banned. They will be laughing their heads off with this trade. The delaying tactics, and stupidity from opposition recruiters, has really worked well for the cheating filth. *If by some chance they are found not guilty, I think he will be a handy player for us. Looks like we really are trying to rid ourselves of a soft underbelly, by bringing in competitors. Hope it works better for us, than it does for essedun. 4 Quote
The Stigga 1,097 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) Recruiting at Melbourne has officially: Edited September 19, 2015 by The Stigga 5 Quote
The Stigga 1,097 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 If it's for a second round pick, I'm content with this trade. He'll improve our list, slightly. Still praying for a Prestia, O'Meara or Bennell though. Another list clogger Ron, And a highly paid one at that if reports are accurate. 1 Quote
SaberFang 7,151 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 How I wish the shark had won. 1 Quote
MrReims 324 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I'm pretty happy with this. Can't stand the bloke but that should never be a reason not to recruit him. He can seriously play, all Essendon players are well down on their best for the obvious reasons. Hell even Zaharakis has looked extremely ordinary the last 2 years but I still rate the guy. At worst will add solid depth Quote
The Stigga 1,097 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 At worst will add solid depth Perhaps, but at $400,000 a year? Corey Enright was on this kind of coin after his 3rd flag... 3 Quote
MrReims 324 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Perhaps, but at $400,000 a year? Corey Enright was on this kind of coin after his 3rd flag... I haven't read an article showing his salary. Can you post the link? Quote
The Stigga 1,097 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I haven't read an article showing his salary. Can you post the link? http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/giant-imbalance-in-players-wages/story-e6frf9jf-1226655094178 1 Quote
MrReims 324 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/giant-imbalance-in-players-wages/story-e6frf9jf-1226655094178 ? I'm confused. How does an article from 2013 relate here? Who has said Melksham will earn 400k? Even if that is correct, Enright whilst being a champion is nearly 70 and wanting to repay his club. Not exactly the same situation Quote
The Stigga 1,097 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 ? I'm confused. How does an article from 2013 relate here? Who has said Melksham will earn 400k? Even if that is correct, Enright whilst being a champion is nearly 70 and wanting to repay his club. Not exactly the same situation My point is that it was only two years ago a three time premiership player was being paid roughly the same amount as we are now offering an NQR from Essendon. I'm just disagreeing with your assertion that he will be depth at best, but rather a list clogger that will add no value to the club, and an expensive one at that (if the reports are accurate that we are indeed offering him 1.6 million over 4 years). Quote
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