The full mob of 40 or so were in the water at the St Kilda beach about 6pm Tuesday night. Lots of howling...either at the long day or the extreme chill. Punishment detail possibly?

Hope they felt a couple of lumps in their throat

No not a scooter in sight.

Where is he by the way?

Come back Saty we all miss you.

Please refrain from making endorsements on behalf of all supporters.

Please refrain from making endorsements on all supporters behalf.

If the coach can why can't I ?

If the coach can why can't I ?

Touche

Tyson?

I miss the training reports, broke the week up.

No not a scooter in sight.

Where is he by the way?

Come back Saty we all miss you.

Not me.

Not me.

Negative negative Jr I would have expected better from you.

Negative negative Jr I would have expected better from you.

Nah, od.....this club has made feel nothing on the inside.

His unwavering positivity on such fairy tales was pretty amazing.

I commend him for it really.

I'd love to live in fairy land.

Not sure about fairy land. More like an angry unkept garden gnome. Maybe a Brothers Grimm 'Fairy' tale ..Rumplestiltskin ?

Not sure about fairy land. More like an angry unkept garden gnome. Maybe a Brothers Grimm 'Fairy' tale ..Rumplestiltskin ?

Doesn't fit the description of the person I have met on a few occasions when I've been down from Sydney. I found him to be a very affable, pleasant person.

Doesn't fit the description of the person I have met on a few occasions when I've been down from Sydney. I found him to be a very affable, pleasant person.

Thank goodness Hardtack, for your note of civility amidst the howl of put downs.

It is astonishing to see posters piling on to sink the boot in. Doesn't it strike you guys as classic bullying behaviour.

As for his optimistic comments about McKenzie and Grimes, he reported what he believed he was seeing. I was also hopeful that 18 months of Roo's and his team may have produced an improvement in many of our players. Turns out it was mostly wishful thinking. But why lash Saty for expressing his thoughts. Some of the players told us the same things. Jamar told us it was the best he had felt after his first full pre-season in many years, - didn't really seem to make a difference.

For many of us, Saty's training reports brightened up a long off season, I hope he returns. I have however given up hope that those who don't like him will simply ignore him, rather than pursue what seems like a relentless vendetta against him.

Doesn't fit the description of the person I have met on a few occasions when I've been down from Sydney. I found him to be a very affable, pleasant person.

Agreed, one should never judge a book by its cover

Were they practicing their high bombs? I'd hate for them to get on the ground on game day and find they've forgotten how to bomb it high and long.

Doesn't fit the description of the person I have met on a few occasions when I've been down from Sydney. I found him to be a very affable, pleasant person.

We're all affable, pleasant, people.

Of course.

It wouldn't be a training report on Demonland without it turning into a thread about Saty.

Thank goodness Hardtack, for your note of civility amidst the howl of put downs.

It is astonishing to see posters piling on to sink the boot in. Doesn't it strike you guys as classic bullying behaviour.

As for his optimistic comments about McKenzie and Grimes, he reported what he believed he was seeing. I was also hopeful that 18 months of Roo's and his team may have produced an improvement in many of our players. Turns out it was mostly wishful thinking. But why lash Saty for expressing his thoughts. Some of the players told us the same things. Jamar told us it was the best he had felt after his first full pre-season in many years, - didn't really seem to make a difference.

For many of us, Saty's training reports brightened up a long off season, I hope he returns. I have however given up hope that those who don't like him will simply ignore him, rather than pursue what seems like a relentless vendetta against him.

Nice rant xarronn. Unless I've missed some deleted posts, your claim of "posters piling on to sink the boot in, howl of put downs, classic bullying behaviour" is hyperbole and not reflective of this thread. Actually, you're sinking the boots in, etc.

Anyway, thanks for the report GeorgiouRR. Great to hear of Goodwin taking the lead role. No mention of Hogan, how was he travelling during the session? Cheers.

does anyone else just laugh/cry when they read things along the lines of them 'fixing problems' at training

you've been training and playing for your whole life

you were a talented junior and a highly paid professional now

as your coaches we are now going to introduce you to concepts such as shepherding, not handballing to a stationary teammate under pressure and putting your body on the line in contests

now that they have been clued in on these basics we should see a much better side I suppose

if only we had told them about this stuff earlier

In all seriousness, there are even more basic things that this group of coaches have had to worry about like fitness, strength, courage and the even more basic skills of kicking, handpassing and marking. We've had to come from a long way back.

In all seriousness, there are even more basic things that this group of coaches have had to worry about like fitness, strength, courage and the even more basic skills of kicking, handpassing and marking. We've had to come from a long way back.

and are still back there LDC

I think shepherding is the most underrated skill.

A good block means the player already with the ball can assess his options, take steadying steps and deliver the ball well.

Instead we give a stupid one meter handball, (usually stuff that up) to a player in just as much pressure.

I think shepherding is the most underrated skill.

A good block means the player already with the ball can assess his options, take steadying steps and deliver the ball well.

Instead we give a stupid one meter handball, (usually stuff that up) to a player in just as much pressure.

Or worse we hand ball to the player providing the shepherd!! Aghrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!

Thank goodness Hardtack, for your note of civility amidst the howl of put downs.

It is astonishing to see posters piling on to sink the boot in. Doesn't it strike you guys as classic bullying behaviour.

As for his optimistic comments about McKenzie and Grimes, he reported what he believed he was seeing. I was also hopeful that 18 months of Roo's and his team may have produced an improvement in many of our players. Turns out it was mostly wishful thinking. But why lash Saty for expressing his thoughts. Some of the players told us the same things. Jamar told us it was the best he had felt after his first full pre-season in many years, - didn't really seem to make a difference.

For many of us, Saty's training reports brightened up a long off season, I hope he returns. I have however given up hope that those who don't like him will simply ignore him, rather than pursue what seems like a relentless vendetta against him.

Surely the bagging of Grimes can ease off after the past couple of weeks - clear improvement there.

Surely the bagging of Grimes can ease off after the past couple of weeks - clear improvement there.

Not if he is your whipping boy pitmaster.

I am not a big fan but he has been far from our worst this year.

His disposal is his weak point but there are plenty of others who as bad if not worse.

He has one big thing going for him that a large number of others could emulate.

He gets the bloody ball.

Nice rant xarronn. Unless I've missed some deleted posts, your claim of "posters piling on to sink the boot in, howl of put downs, classic bullying behaviour" is hyperbole and not reflective of this thread. Actually, you're sinking the boots in, etc.

Anyway, thanks for the report GeorgiouRR. Great to hear of Goodwin taking the lead role. No mention of Hogan, how was he travelling during the session? Cheers.

How about you go back and look at posts 8, 9, 16 , 17, 27, 32, 35.

Grimes has been all class the way he has firstly accepted his time in the seconds and then fought back to a point where he will probably retain his place.

I can't understand the criticism of his recent form - especially last week where he was easily amongst our best. His disposal efficiency is actually quite respectable but the odd clanger sticks in the mind and devalues his overall game.

Would love to see Jack and Trenners become regulars again, they still have a lot to offer.