I used to love watching a young Rivers playing for the dees, some great memories.

Cat Rivers' injury forces call on career

Decided to leave when we couldn't afford to lose him...Chasing September on the back of other peoples work

Not in the same category as Frawley who gave up whilst still being paid

But ultimately a deserter...That is how i view Free Agency...

Yes we got new Young Talent in return....But who is there to teach them??

We do not have a leadership group......

Sad, thought he had more to give but the Cats are probably after more youth given they want Henderson. Wish Frawley left earlier and we kept Rivers. Deserved to be a one club player, was one of our best in 2012 and we could've used a proper veteran around the club

Riv was good player, good reader of the play, forced to take best or second best forward when with us, played his heart out and I didn't begrudge him leaving.

Decided to leave when we couldn't afford to lose him...Chasing September on the back of other peoples work

Not in the same category as Frawley who gave up whilst still being paid

But ultimately a deserter...That is how i view Free Agency...

Yes we got new Young Talent in return....But who is there to teach them??

We do not have a leadership group......

Sorry to disagree WYL, but we haven't missed him at all.

He lacks pace and that's all we need another player that can't run.

Frawley was no loss. He can't kick. Who did we get for Frawley.. Brayshaw. I rest my case.

One of our better draft picks.

I'm thankful for small mercies.

One of our better draft picks.

I'm thankful for small mercies.

Absolutely. His first few years under Daniher were nothing short of sensational. I still remember him running back with the flight to take a mark and almost killing himself against Essendon... and he held the mark.

Always was a fan of Rivers and held no grudges towards him when he moved on, he always gave his all on the field and went through some very dark periods with the footy club.

I would have loved to have seen him taste some real success and wish him all the best in whatever he does in the future

His first year with us was very good. Looked like he was a 100 gamer. Don't begrudge him leaving, or maybe the club knew it was only a matter of time before his degen knee became too much.

Traitor! Went chasin glory when we needed him and to a lesser extent Frawley.

I was a huge fan of Riv. Played on opponents much bigger then him and was rarely beaten. Great reader of the flight and a great mark. Also showed himself to be capable of kicking a goal in the 2nd half of 2012 when he was forced to play forward after Clark went down.

Didn't have any hard feelings with him leaving as we all knew he only had a small time left in the game. 10 years & 150 games was good service.

Wish him well post AFL.

How good was it when Riv and Davey were playing well when they finished first and second in the rising star award..the future looked so bright..

Decided to leave when we couldn't afford to lose him...Chasing September on the back of other peoples work

Not in the same category as Frawley who gave up whilst still being paid

But ultimately a deserter...That is how i view Free Agency...

Agreed. I have no respect at all for players who want a free ride to playing finals in a team that has already done all the work. It's no surprise that these guys have struggled when they get to top sides and discover that they were expected to work for the privilege of playing in a great side.

How good was it when Riv and Davey were playing well when they finished first and second in the rising star award..the future looked so bright..

Three years later we started our run of 9 years straight with no finals.....

It can change quick can't it!

Sadly won't be remembered as a great Dee or a great Cat....that's what happens when you leave a club chasing success and the success part doesn't happen.

another rat who fled the sinking ship

was a brilliant performer and leader though, through those 30 goal losses

yeah thanks heaps

Neeld didn't want him. Tom McDonald, Garland and Frawley (then Dunn) filled his spot.

We should've got compo for him but stuffed that up.

I don't begrudge him. His knee was always going to shorten his career. I'm happy he got to play some good footy.

Again, stuffing the compo hurt more than Riv actually leaving.

Three years later we started our run of 9 years straight with no finals.....

It can change quick can't it!

It does, but it's best to remember Rivers' early days playing for the dees, I get the same feeling watching Brayshaw these days...hopefully he has a more successful career than Rivers.

Sorry to disagree WYL, but we haven't missed him at all.

He lacks pace and that's all we need another player that can't run.

Frawley was no loss. He can't kick. Who did we get for Frawley.. Brayshaw. I rest my case.

It's all about setting the tone Pig Dog

Players keep wanting to leave means this old club can never stand up. No one around teaching the babies how to walk and fend for themselves.

Hired help can only do so much

I don't hate Jared but i was disappointed. The Cats had run their race by the time he walked in.

Jared was more use as a Demon teacher

He could still play both ends of the ground

At the time he left i said we didn't need him

But we did. That is why we still struggle

No leaders on the grass

Coaches are not on the park when the ball is bounced and starts flying around at top speed....

On of my favourite players of the past decade. I wish him well in retirement if this season is his last.

It's all about setting the tone Pig Dog

Players keep wanting to leave means this old club can never stand up. No one around teaching the babies how to walk and fend for themselves.

Hired help can only do so much

I don't hate Jared but i was disappointed. The Cats had run their race by the time he walked in.

Jared was more use as a Demon teacher

He could still play both ends of the ground

At the time he left i said we didn't need him

But we did. That is why we still struggle

No leaders on the grass

Coaches are not on the park when the ball is bounced and starts flying around at top speed....

Could he really play both ends of the ground? Went ok forward but it wasn't his go. With Neeld preferring McDonald and Frawley he was being squeezed out. Imagine if your boss deployed you to a different job role that wasn't your preference then a rival (and better) company offered you a job in your preferred role.

If Rivers stayed he would've suffered through some bad years for little.

We needed Daniel Cross and Bernie Vince and something more out of Dawes and Clark and a younger better Lumumba, that's the on field leaders we needed.

Could he really play both ends of the ground? Went ok forward but it wasn't his go. With Neeld preferring McDonald and Frawley he was being squeezed out. Imagine if your boss deployed you to a different job role that wasn't your preference then a rival (and better) company offered you a job in your preferred role.

If Rivers stayed he would've suffered through some bad years for little.

We needed Daniel Cross and Bernie Vince and something more out of Dawes and Clark and a younger better Lumumba, that's the on field leaders we needed.

We also need Demon Leaders George

If they keep walking the fabric will always keep tearing...

It's all about setting the tone Pig Dog

Players keep wanting to leave means this old club can never stand up. No one around teaching the babies how to walk and fend for themselves.

Hired help can only do so much

I don't hate Jared but i was disappointed. The Cats had run their race by the time he walked in.

Jared was more use as a Demon teacher

He could still play both ends of the ground

At the time he left i said we didn't need him

But we did. That is why we still struggle

No leaders on the grass

Coaches are not on the park when the ball is bounced and starts flying around at top speed....

chicken & egg wyl

the trouble was before riv came, Riv learn't under a soft culture on the wane. it didn't bottom until around 2007, & in our efforts to start repairing it we managed to stuff that up also making things doubly worse. the concepts were fine on paper, but the managing of those things were poorly thought thru, & handled.

other clubs did the same as us, & got away with it, but we mucked things up so often, we were taking sips at the rivers edge for so long, that that crocodile was bound to snap us up, sooner or later.

you can't teach new kids into premiership players in this comp, if your senior players are only somewhat pro, with a soft club culture... so what happened with sylvia & mcClean, robertson, moloney, others, on top of really really bad recruiting.

here is a Mfc list of names from 2008

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2008-mfc-club-list.403007/

Jared probably took one look at Neeld and ran. Who could blame him? Why would anyone stay in that situation. Yet we have these idiotic posters that are so quick to turn on our players and call for them to be sacked and traded, one of which is as big a lowlife as to refer to Aaron Davey as a dog for holding out for a four year contract! These idiots have the nerve to attack Jared for moving to another club, one where one of his mates from school was playing and a club that wasn't a train wreck. Pathetic (that's not Jared...).

Frawley was playing under Roos, said if Roos will sign he will yet he ran. Don't compare the two.

Jared probably took one look at Neeld and ran. Who could blame him? Why would anyone stay in that situation. Yet we have these idiotic posters that are so quick to turn on our players and call for them to be sacked and traded, one of which is as big a lowlife as to refer to Aaron Davey as a dog for holding out for a four year contract! These idiots have the nerve to attack Jared for moving to another club, one where one of his mates from school was playing and a club that wasn't a train wreck. Pathetic (that's not Jared...).

Frawley was playing under Roos, said if Roos will sign he will yet he ran. Don't compare the two.

Come on people! He didn't jump, he was pushed.