Agree on the first bit, but cowardly might be a tad harsh

eye gouging, twice, chicken wings....

perfectly fair IMO

Can we not, please. I don't want his bald mongo head or his anorexic wife near our club. We're suffered enough.

Can we not, please. I don't want his bald mongo head or his anorexic wife near our club. We're suffered enough.

He's also stated numerous times he has no interest. It's a non issue.

This thread run its course then?

It was still drama for Melbourne.

I remember the night before he announced where he was going Brian Taylor announced at a function that he was going to Melbourne. Then of course we were told the same thing by his grandmother.

We should draft his grandma

Did he go to the team offering the biggest contract or the team who could offer the best trade to the Eagles? Most suspect the Blues deal was sealed before his 4 club roadshow. Certainly with the added Visy dollars none of the other clubs were in the ballpark dollars wise. So he retires a wealthier man than if he'd gone to the Hawks or the Pies but that has come at the cost of winning more flags. In his prime he was brilliant to watch. Could win the ball inside and turbo out of a pack and keep on running. Even last year he could still turn a quarter for the Blues despite his body failing him.

Wow, I only just opened this thread now, and I'm truly surprised by the amount of angst against a champion of the game that has retired injured.

Pleasantly surprised. Great read.

Can we not, please. I don't want his bald mongo head or his anorexic wife near our club. We're suffered enough.

Pull your head in.

So many sad and sour Melbourne supporters.

Calling Judd a coward.

Haha.

He was a champion player and a champion leader.

He was a champion player and a champion leader.

Champion player, very good leader, sneaky thug. Don't speak ill of the dead, but he's only retired.

Can we not, please. I don't want his bald mongo head or his anorexic wife near our club. We're suffered enough.

Interesting with your avatar !

He was a champion player and a champion leader.

First part of that is right. He was nowhere near a leader. Not sure if you noticed the WCE drug problem? Or some similar issues at Carlton with Fev Levi Casboult etc. All under his watch.

Judd is a lone wolf. Champion player but no interest in him at our club - and why would he want to by the way?

First part of that is right. He was nowhere near a leader. Not sure if you noticed the WCE drug problem? Or some similar issues at Carlton with Fev Levi Casboult etc. All under his watch.

Judd is a lone wolf. Champion player but no interest in him at our club - and why would he want to by the way?

The drug issue was there before Judd arrived and was a deep rooted issue at that club. He was a kid when he got there.

Every club has it's own bad eggs. Are you saying Neitz was a bad leader because he couldn't inspire a work ethic for players like Sylvia?

You're basically calling Judd a bad leader because he couldn't curb the behaviour of certain troubled players which is a pretty narrow view.

Speak to any player at Carlton and ask how influential he has been as captain.

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The drug issue was there before Judd arrived and was a deep rooted issue at that club. He was a kid when he got there.

Every club has it's own bad eggs. Are you saying Neitz was a bad leader because he couldn't inspire a work ethic for players like Sylvia?

You're basically calling Judd a bad leader because he couldn't curb the behaviour of certain troubled players which is a pretty narrow view.

Speak to any player at Carlton and ask how influential he has been as captain.

Lots of rumours at the time but one of those stories was that Judd was so concerned about the illicit drug taking of players that he told the club that he would not stay at the club if it continued. That the club had to take action to stop it. They did nothing, so he left.

So many sad and sour Melbourne supporters.

Calling Judd a coward.

Haha.

He was a champion player and a champion leader.

So eye gouging, sorry "pressure points", and the chicken wing incident on defenseless players were not cowardly acts?

I can't believe how many people are still holding a grudge against Judd because he didn't come to Melbourne SEVEN YEARS ago.

In case anybody has forgotten we were an absolute basket case on and off the field at the time, and couldn't attract players of any quality to the club, let alone (arguably) the best player in the game.

We couldn't have afforded his salary either legitimately or illegitimately, and certainly couldn't have given West Coast appropriate compensation. No decent player in their right mind would have wanted to come to a club with third world facilities, a divided board and conflicted football department.

He was never coming to us, and I never understood why people were getting their panties in a bunch at the prospect.

I doubt we will ever see him have a meaningful role in the AFL, perhaps outside the AFL commission, as he has well and truly set himself up for life after football. That said, if he did express interest in a coaching / mentoring role, we would be stupid not to consider him for a position.

Lots of rumours at the time but one of those stories was that Judd was so concerned about the illicit drug taking of players that he told the club that he would not stay at the club if it continued. That the club had to take action to stop it. They did nothing, so he left.

That's exactly the way i heard it.

The Visy job was locked in well before he got to Victoria

At least now he can work for Visy full time give them value for money considering the wage his family has been paid.

Jesus, this thread is a disgrace and should be locked.

I know Juddy personally, he is a mate, an unbelievably good bloke and a legend of our sport. I am disappointed he did not come to the Dees, truth is if we had our house in order he would have. Get over it!!!!!!

Juddy will not be going into full time media or full time coaching. He is over the fish bowl of the AFL and has built and impressive business portfolio. Mark my words you will only be reading about Juddy in the future will be in business pages of the papers.

Lots of rumours at the time but one of those stories was that Judd was so concerned about the illicit drug taking of players that he told the club that he would not stay at the club if it continued. That the club had to take action to stop it. They did nothing, so he left.

I remember hearing those rumours at the start of 2007, by the end of 2007 he was gone.

The drug issue was there before Judd arrived and was a deep rooted issue at that club. He was a kid when he got there.

Every club has it's own bad eggs. Are you saying Neitz was a bad leader because he couldn't inspire a work ethic for players like Sylvia?

You're basically calling Judd a bad leader because he couldn't curb the behaviour of certain troubled players which is a pretty narrow view.

Speak to any player at Carlton and ask how influential he has been as captain.

Yeah, nah, He is not a leader for mine. Great player but in the leadership stakes isn't a patch on Selwood, Hodge, Boak, Reiwoldt etc

When you look at Nathan Jones and his 'coaching' of Gus I have never seen Juddy do that with Murphy, Gibbs etc

You're welcome to your opinion but I disagree.

Can we not, please. I don't want his bald mongo head or his anorexic wife near our club. We're suffered enough.

Dumbest post in a long time. Grow up.

Dumbest post in a long time. Grow up.

Oh please. I make at least 5 dumber posts than this a week. I'm hurt you haven't noticed.

Oh please. I make at least 5 dumber posts than this a week. I'm hurt you haven't noticed.

Jesus, this thread is a disgrace and should be locked.

I know Juddy personally, he is a mate, an unbelievably good bloke and a legend of our sport. I am disappointed he did not come to the Dees, truth is if we had our house in order he would have. Get over it!!!!!!

Juddy will not be going into full time media or full time coaching. He is over the fish bowl of the AFL and has built and impressive business portfolio. Mark my words you will only be reading about Juddy in the future will be in business pages of the papers.

If you are Juddy's mate, you're in a good position to ask him about his vicious attacks on opponents.

I admit that I'm possibly over-influenced by an interest in eye injury( my line of work).

But I'd like you to ask Chris, who undoubtedly is an intelligent and well educated bloke,whether he has any regrets about screwing his thumbs into another player's eyeballs. Not many other players do this. Has he any concept of "duty of care"?

Does he remember Nick Walsh.?

What was the real story about the "pressure points"?

I wonder if I'm alone in my opinion that he and Matthews are the two most reprehensible thugs I've seen on a footy field.

Just to add my random two cents worth and to keep it classy...Twiggs = Zoolander