Adam Goodes

[Demon Disciple 12,496]

not at all. he just said in an interview post-match, that he did it to display and celebrate his indigenous heritage, and honour the younger indigenous players who taught him it from there younger ranks. Which is absolutely fine, in my opinion.

Radio said something different during half-time break. Nevertheless, good on him. If people were booing me for whatever reason, i'd come out firing too.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,460]

Many people put Lumumba in the same boat as Goodes. Why do those two get booed and other indigenous or black players don't? Have a think about it.

A few people who have actually met Lumumba and reported back on here had nothing but complimentary things to say about him and were impressed by him.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,460]

In 2012 Mark Murphy was fined $900 by the tribunal for giving the Collingwood cheer squad the bird.

Goodes' premeditated display of aggressive and menacing theatrics towards a section of the crowd was far more reprehensible and I expect to see him up before the tribunal this week....

....unless different standards are applied to footballers according to their colour.

And that would be racism, wouldn't it?

Don't be an idiot. I'm sure the crowd were fearing for their lives...

[Moonshadow 17,678]

In 2012 Mark Murphy was fined $900 by the tribunal for giving the Collingwood cheer squad the bird.

Goodes' premeditated display of aggressive and menacing theatrics towards a section of the crowd was far more reprehensible and I expect to see him up before the tribunal this week....

....unless different standards are applied to footballers according to their colour.

And that would be racism, wouldn't it?

Pure hyperbole.

If you heard his interview on the ground after the game you would have heard him say it was a tribute to the under 16 indigenous players who spent time with the Swans this week and taught them those steps. He clearly said it wasn't aimed at that particular section of the crowd. Or is that not exciting enough for you to believe?

[mdemon 266]

Goodes is an interesting footballer - talented, courageous, inspirational.

Yet strangely, (almost perversely), he is respected at best, admired by few, and loved by not many at all (outside of Swans supporters).

An almost uniquely polarising player - everybody seems to have a strong view about him, one way or the other.

FWIIW, I see him as a prat - the fact that he is an indigenous prat, to me, is utterly irrelevant.

[Alotta 88]

Don't be an idiot. I'm sure the crowd were fearing for their lives...

Bit subtle for you it seems.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,460]

Bit subtle for you it seems.

Yeah, subtle as a sledgehammer.

[John Crow Batty 8,886]

Goodes is an interesting footballer - talented, courageous, inspirational.

Yet strangely, (almost perversely), he is respected at best, admired by few, and loved by not many at all (outside of Swans supporters).

An almost uniquely polarising player - everybody seems to have a strong view about him, one way or the other.

FWIIW, I see him as a prat - the fact that he is an indigenous prat, to me, is utterly irrelevant.

If he played for us he would be a loveable prat.

[pineapple dee 2,892]

Come on Song, that's just not true. So I guess calling Goodes a monkey or King Kong isn't racist? Regardless of what people think of the incident with the 13 yr old girl, the boos are definitely related to that. Or should he just suck it up and accept the racist insults, like generations of Indigenous footballers?

The booing will have little to do with racism but a lot to do with his reign as the Australian of the year and his comments to divide rather than unite Australians at that time. No one is proud of the treatment meted out to Aborigines in the past but for goodness sake be a diplomat and a spokesperson for all Australians. There is a lot of residual resentment for his ill considered words at that time which did nothing for his reputation nor the causes of reconciliation and harmony within society.

[binman 44,735]

Goodes is booed because he was Australian of the Year and he didn't toe the party line and chant 'Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!'

He said some truths that made s lot of people very angry to hear.

An absolute champion of the game and a great of the modern era.

Spot on. People would have no problem if he did what many think he is supposed to do - shut up and entertain us.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

The booing will have little to do with racism but a lot to do with his reign as the Australian of the year and his comments to divide rather than unite Australians at that time. No one is proud of the treatment meted out to Aborigines in the past but for goodness sake be a diplomat and a spokesperson for all Australians. There is a lot of residual resentment for his ill considered words at that time which did nothing for his reputation nor the causes of reconciliation and harmony within society.

So I guess he should have shut up, bit his lip and not given his views about the reason he was chosen for Aust of the Year. I personally thought many of his Aust of the Year comments were spot on. If it's diplomatic to refrain from being honest and speaking your mind, then we need less diplomats.

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

One would hope his reason for doing it was true....to represent some young indigenous girls, because that would be one hell of a lie if it wasn't true....

I am not a fan of Goodes and I never will be

Why can't he just try to blend in....we don't see any other indigenous players celebrating like he did and an Australian of the year must be smart enough to realise an aggressive celebration like that would be controversial...

Blend in Adam and you won't get booed...

Ask yourself this question, if he did that celebration to the Melbourne cheer squad behind the goals would we be more upset about it..??

[Moonshadow 17,678]

One would hope his reason for doing it was true....to represent some young indigenous girls, because that would be one hell of a lie if it wasn't true....

I am not a fan of Goodes and I never will be

Why can't he just try to blend in....we don't see any other indigenous players celebrating like he did and an Australian of the year must be smart enough to realise an aggressive celebration like that would be controversial...

Blend in Adam and you won't get booed...

Ask yourself this question, if he did that celebration to the Melbourne cheer squad behind the goals would we be more upset about it..??

Hmmmmm....

Thanks Allan McAllistair.

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

If he played for us he would be a loveable prat.

let's be honest...he wouldn't ...! I don't care if we never won another game, I would hate for Gooded to be in the red and blue ...!!!

[Moonshadow 17,678]

If a guy played 300+ games for us, won 2 brownlows and a couple of premiership medallions I'd consider him a club great. Only a fool wouldn't.

[John Crow Batty 8,886]

let's be honest...he wouldn't ...! I don't care if we never won another game, I would hate for Gooded to be in the red and blue ...!!!

You are a person of ironclad principles.

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

Pure hyperbole.

If you heard his interview on the ground after the game you would have heard him say it was a tribute to the under 16 indigenous players who spent time with the Swans this week and taught them those steps. He clearly said it wasn't aimed at that particular section of the crowd. Or is that not exciting enough for you to believe?

Who cares what he said in his interview....it's what he did on the ground....it was un-necessary, there are other ways to celebrate indigenous round than to perform an aggressive dance toward Carlton supporters , if you watch it again they were booing him as he did it ( which I think is great ) ...blend in Goodesy and everyone will leave you alone!!

Surely that's not the way indigenous players want to be represented?

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

If a guy played 300+ games for us, won 2 brownlows and a couple of premiership medallions I'd consider him a club great. Only a fool wouldn't.

Yeh he would be a club great... It's a bit like Carey, great player...but... Goodes will be remembered the same way, something a bit dodgy about him...and completely different type of club great compared to a Neitz, Robert Harvey, Simon Goodwin type.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,525]

One would hope his reason for doing it was true....to represent some young indigenous girls, because that would be one hell of a lie if it wasn't true....

I am not a fan of Goodes and I never will be

Why can't he just try to blend in....we don't see any other indigenous players celebrating like he did and an Australian of the year must be smart enough to realise an aggressive celebration like that would be controversial...

Blend in Adam and you won't get booed...

Ask yourself this question, if he did that celebration to the Melbourne cheer squad behind the goals would we be more upset about it..??

Why can't indigenous people just assimilate? Blend in? Disappear? Just be whiter??

No one would boo if he just acted whiter...

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

You are a person of ironclad principles.

So are the thousands booing him.

[Clayton van Oliver 1,829]

Erm... indigenous round. What's the big deal?

[John Crow Batty 8,886]

Yeh he would be a club great... It's a bit like Carey, great player...but... Goodes will be remembered the same way, something a bit dodgy about him...and completely different type of club great compared to a Neitz, Robert Harvey, Simon Goodwin type.

David Neitz did have some alleged rascist trouble though off field.

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

Why can't indigenous people just assimilate? Blend in? Disappear? Just be whiter??

No one would boo if he just acted whiter...

We hear about reports of racist comments often, why does he have to be the hero to humiliate a 13 year old girl and make an example out of her, do we see any other indigenous players doing this or doing quite aggressive native dances towards opposition spectators...

BLEND IN GOODES - ITS NOT HARD

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

Erm... indigenous round. What's the big deal?

The big deal is, that it being indigeonous round is just an excuse for him to act like a wan ker...

[John Crow Batty 8,886]

The big deal is, that it being indigeonous round is just an excuse for him to act like a wan ker...

Have a camomile tea and go to bed.