Where was the running, pressure, tackling we saw against the Crows and Tigers? Surely these things, based on effort, shouldn't change regardless of your opponent.

Spot on, mate. Teams may change, but endeavour should remain the same.

We are there abouts each week with the opposition in tackling contested possession and inside fifties counts . It's the quality of our ball use -.finishing slow play and bloody turnovers usually by foot that kill us . Today we were taught a lesson by a very good team .

If you haven't seen TMac's interview after the game

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2015-05-16/rd-7-tom-mcdonald-postmatch

Here's a bloke hurting who gets it.

No platitudes, no bull$hit

A leader

9 years a long kneejerk...

I'm furstrated, but I hope the same dills that are having a go this week quieten down over the next few weeks when we win a couple.

I'm furstrated, but I hope the same dills that are having a go this week quieten down over the next few weeks when we win a couple.

Problem is we won't.

Especially Dawes...if he makes it next week that is

Today was another putrid episode in the modern history of the MFC. I wrestled hard with the idea of maintaining my premium membership for the 37th consecutive year and kept the faith. It was not the 100 point loss that angered me, this putrid football belongs to the group of players whose attitude and self respect belongs in the toilet.

Dawes is just one of this group who are getting a game purely on our lack of talent and depth. The only solution I can come up with in the short term is for the club to throw the chequebook at 2 or 3 superstars to keep this club relevant. I cannot see any other way of keeping members on board unless the club goes this way. Peter Jackson and the off field team are getting their job done, however Jacko needs to harness all his resources humanly possible to get A grade stars onto our list for 2016.

Incompetent

bungling

heartless

soulless

gutless

incapable

unskilled

weak

insipid

spiritless

feeble

characterless

vapid

submissive

fainthearted

chicken hearted

lily-livered

pusillanimous

cowardly

useless

Got out the thesaurus did we? Left out spineless, and Testicularly deprived

MELBOURNE coach Paul Roos has told his players to forget about Saturday's 105-point loss to Hawthorn and he has no plans to show them a replay as part of the team's review.

The coach suggested his players could even be granted extra days off this week as the club prepares to audit their workload and conditioning after a sluggish performance at the MCG.

Roos said injury management was a big issue for the Demons after Jesse Hogan was withdrawn pre-game with soreness and Christian Salem was substituted with a hamstring injury.

Wow 20 years ago if a team had a loss like that there would be a 6am bring your mouth guards training session where it was an all out no holds back training.

YOu also have to think Roos has never been in this position as coach where the team gets belted a lot. So I guess he has to find a way to get confidence back into the boys.

Oh dear I just seen the scores. I don't think I should watch the game on my AFL Live account this week.

saw FFS!

If you haven't seen TMac's interview after the game

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2015-05-16/rd-7-tom-mcdonald-postmatch

Here's a bloke hurting who gets it.

No platitudes, no bull$hit

A leader

Fast becoming my favourite. Love him.

MELBOURNE coach Paul Roos has told his players to forget about Saturday's 105-point loss to Hawthorn and he has no plans to show them a replay as part of the team's review. The coach suggested his players could even be granted extra days off this week as the club prepares to audit their workload and conditioning after a sluggish performance at the MCG. Roos said injury management was a big issue for the Demons after Jesse Hogan was withdrawn pre-game with soreness and Christian Salem was substituted with a hamstring injury.

Wow 20 years ago if a team had a loss like that there would be a 6am bring your mouth guards training session where it was an all out no holds back training.

YOu also have to think Roos has never been in this position as coach where the team gets belted a lot. So I guess he has to find a way to get confidence back into the boys.

Roosy will do it his way, however the club cannot escape the fact that the list contains too many who are not AFL standard. The longest rebuild in history.

YOu also have to think Roos has never been in this position as coach where the team gets belted a lot. So I guess he has to find a way to get confidence back into the boys.

He hasn't this is his first 100 point loss.

Another first for the Dees.

Well done boys!

GWS have a group who play with pride. They want to compete and seem determined to improve.

How many people were talking about how crap the Bulldogs and Saints talent levels were over the last few years? All of a sudden they are once again miles ahead of us. Why? Because they have loads more talent than us? No, it's because they want to compete. Essendon are also miles ahead of us despite having an ordinary list with a one paced midfield. Why? Yep, it's because as a club they are EXPECTED to compete.

I wouldn't be using GWS to support your argument. They prove what I'm saying. When we have been poor (finished low on the ladder) THEY got all the talent in the draft, and now THEY are a much better side because of it. Judging against your criteria Roos is incapable of demanding and measuring effort but Leon Cameron isn't? Come off it. It's the cattle.

As for the bulldogs - they are probably a couple of years ahead of us because they had a better mix of experience to help development.

Saints - Juries out. They've been up and down. As have we.

Essendon - I agree that it's an ordinary list but it's an ordinary list with 50-100 games on average more than ours. Time in the competition can't be underestimated.

Anyways. Lets agree to disagree. Losing sucks. I'd love you to be right and we demand more effort and the players can turn it around based on that alone!

Can we get rid of the players on the banner and put them back when they hit form?

I am thinking it will be pretty empty for a while.

Viney and Hogan can stay.

Roos has had some reasonable payers elsewhere. He has 2 or 3 at this club. Some of the "efforts" of our players seem to show a complete lack of heart. The commitment is pretty much zero. The future is almost now gone. The club is apparently doomed.......................................................................or is there still a tiny bit of pride somewhere? The President needs to come out publicly aloud and tell the playing group how stupidly inept they look. Our final chance is seemingly to embarrass the hell out of them. I can't bear the thought of travelling all the way (3 hrs) to a game to be served up that shite. OK players, who is going to have a real go next week? There are a few VFL sides that would toss them at the moment. Maybe even Carlton or the Saints. I'm nearly done! I am over all the [censored] promises. I'd just like to ask each of the players one thing..........................."Who is genuinely embarrassed to be playing for this club?" The answers would be totally enlightening!

A young mate who is a hawks man gave me a text last night and said he had tickets. Yea why not I say.

The company I used to work for, he still does are Hawks sponsors. The tickets were in the Hawks ticketed area.

Was really hard to not go nuts at some of the people around me just laughing and taking the p!ss out of our sh!tty sh!tty club.

Little boy to his parents: so do Melb always lose?

Parents: yes pretty much

Boy: so are they on the bottom

Parents: always

Boy: so it's an easy game

This was before the game, the questions/laughter/answers got worse as the the game went on.

I will have a new born in Sept... Not sure I can toture him with dees membership

Victory breed emnity,

The defeated one sleeps poorly,

The peaceful one sleeps easy having given up victory and defeat.

The Buddha.

As probably the only Melbourne supporter to have meditated for 6 hours yesterday and left a Buddhist monastery this morning to go to the MCG,I used the quote above to keep myself peaceful,just thought I'd offer it here for an substitute for drugs,alcohol,punching holes through walls,burning down the MFC,player witch hunts ect.

I have a sick feeling that we're cooked as a football club.

All we are going to do as a club to players like Hogan and Brayshaw is bring them down.

I actually feel sorry for Hogan.

Roos has had some reasonable payers elsewhere. He has 2 or 3 at this club. Some of the "efforts" of our players seem to show a complete lack of heart. The commitment is pretty much zero. The future is almost now gone. The club is apparently doomed.......................................................................or is there still a tiny bit of pride somewhere? The President needs to come out publicly aloud and tell the playing group how stupidly inept they look. Our final chance is seemingly to embarrass the hell out of them. I can't bear the thought of travelling all the way (3 hrs) to a game to be served up that shite. OK players, who is going to have a real go next week? There are a few VFL sides that would toss them at the moment. Maybe even Carlton or the Saints. I'm nearly done! I am over all the [censored] promises. I'd just like to ask each of the players one thing..........................."Who is genuinely embarrassed to be playing for this club?" The answers would be totally enlightening!

Agree that we need PJ to come out and make a stand, reassure us... something, ANYTHING. Because right now (and after the GWS thrashing) all I see is a doomed club that will fold by the next broadcast rights agreement.

If Goodwin doesnt turn out to be a great coach we are stuffed

I have a sick feeling that we're cooked as a football club.

All we are going to do as a club to players like Hogan and Brayshaw is bring them down.

I actually feel sorry for Hogan.

Oh, harden the [censored] up. I hope that's a facetious comment.

We'll have to lift a notch to make the finals now.

Thanks for making me laugh

I have a sick feeling that we're cooked as a football club.

All we are going to do as a club to players like Hogan and Brayshaw is bring them down.

I actually feel sorry for Hogan.

Why do you feel sorry for him? He's going to get seven figures at Freo.

Why do you feel sorry for him? He's going to get six figures at Freo.

Six? His next deal will be close to eight, whether here or elsewhere.

Oh, harden the [censored] up. I hope that's a facetious comment.

Just a realist.