What a load of crap. You can stick your head in the sand if you want. We tanked, and of course it was only a handful of games that it was required, but, along with other things, killed the culture and the spirit of the playing group and set us back years and years.

If that was true then how do you explain the significant improvement in the team's performances in 2010 and the early part of 2011 when they won several big games including the slaughter of the Swans by a record margin for them under Paul Roos?

The thing that broke their spirit was the internal battle within the club between those who were for and against the Bailey style of coaching which failed against teams that applied the hard forward press like the Hawks and the Eagles who murdered us in 2011.

And that is why Brock wanted out.

Of course it had nothing whatsoever to do with the extra coin that Carlton was prepared to offer to Brock after we refused to give him a pay increase? After all, Carlton had no recent history of tanking at the time, did it?

A chemist about to be appointed coach of Essendon.

You couldn't possibly make that up.

yes, but this time a real one

A chemist about to be appointed coach of Essendon.

You couldn't possibly make that up.

The irony goes further than that. He presided over a Premiership team which was subsequently accused of having a culture involving activities which involve the ingestion of various unusual substances, (although not club endorsed).

The irony goes further than that. He presided over a Premiership team which was subsequently accused of having a culture involving activities which involve the ingestion of various unusual substances, (although not club endorsed).

...and played in one that well...

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-05/essendon-among-four-clubs-fined-for-asada-breach

This is probably a simple error, but if there's one club that you'd think might try a bit harder not to stuff it up...

Thankfully, we're not one of the ones being fined (St Kilda, Richmond, Port Adelaide and Essendon are the four).

What a load of crap. You can stick your head in the sand if you want. We tanked, and of course it was only a handful of games that it was required, but, along with other things, killed the culture and the spirit of the playing group and set us back years and years. And that is why Brock wanted out.

Ha ha gold.

Brock wanted out because fo the tanking culture and went to Carlton.

Oh, you're not kidding......

Good luck with the therapy.

Sandor Earl (remember him?)

Just been given a 4 year ban backdated tp 2013 (which was the last time he played)

Sandor Earl (remember him?)

Just been given a 4 year ban backdated tp 2013 (which was the last time he played)

Ouch

Yeah, they aren't messing around...

not surprising. he got caught red-handed and pleaded guilty.

long list of charges and multiple types of peds

Id like to give a big shout out to all our Essendon supporters ....

And yet im in two minds about the wisdom of any club that's silly enough to deal with them.

A four year ban for Melksham would coincide nicely with the four year contract that Melbourne are supposedly offering him. Although I believe he's only up for a maximum of two years?

Edited October 14, 20159 yr by Spirit of '87

Milkshake can only get a max of 2

"The NRL is committed to eliminating performance enhancing drugs," NRL head of integrity Nick Weeks said in a statement.

"We want our game to provide a fair and safe environment for players and that means taking all reasonable steps to eradicate performance enhancing drugs from rugby league."

Yet to hear anyone from the AFL mutter anything along these lines....

Milkshake can only get a max of 2

Thanks, thought so. I'd still prefer that we were not into him at all though - I can only see downside potential, and little or no upside.

There is a big difference between the two cases.

Earl was caught red handed.

The Bummers were not and any evidence is circumstantial at best.

There is a big difference between the two cases.

Earl was caught red handed.

The Bummers were not and any evidence is circumstantial at best.

not "circumstantial at best", od, but "strong cirmumstantial"

The silks have started arriving!

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/key-sports-reps-seek-wada-audience-20151014-gk95uq.html

The WADA Director General is in town for a 3 day sports law conference (albeit booked 12 months ago).

The attendees are a 'who's who' of sport officialdom and legal eagles in Australia and New Zealand

1st day of conference is over, continues till Friday.

If it hadn't been for trade week and that article by Sam Lane it may have come and gone and we would have been none the wiser.

It won't slip under the radar now and the EFC/CAS case will back in the news.

Time to get the popcorn out again bb!

Sandor Earl (remember him?)

Just been given a 4 year ban backdated tp 2013 (which was the last time he played)

Wowe, didn't he take his punishment too? ie he said yes I did it from the get go?

"The NRL is committed to eliminating performance enhancing drugs," NRL head of integrity Nick Weeks said in a statement.

"We want our game to provide a fair and safe environment for players and that means taking all reasonable steps to eradicate performance enhancing drugs from rugby league."

Yet to hear anyone from the AFL mutter anything along these lines....

I am sure their "integrity commissioners" or whatever they are amusingly called, are on to it.

As an aside - listening to SEN I seem to have heard some company advertising as "the official supplements provider to NMFC" - thought that was rather a strange 'claim to fame' in the current environment.

Also I was amused at seeing, during a news flash of an EFC game (will not watch their games) "Chemists Warehouse" advertisements along the boundary.

"The NRL is committed to eliminating performance enhancing drugs," NRL head of integrity Nick Weeks said in a statement.

"We want our game to provide a fair and safe environment for players and that means taking all reasonable steps to eradicate performance enhancing drugs from rugby league."

Yet to hear anyone from the AFL mutter anything along these lines....

it doesn't exist in the afl didn't you know !!

There is a big difference between the two cases.

Earl was caught red handed.

The Bummers were not and any evidence is circumstantial at best.

you and bloody wet tram tickets...lol

Clock ticking....soon we'll know

"The NRL is committed to eliminating performance enhancing drugs," NRL head of integrity Nick Weeks said in a statement.

"We want our game to provide a fair and safe environment for players and that means taking all reasonable steps to eradicate performance enhancing drugs from rugby league."

Yet to hear anyone from the AFL mutter anything along these lines....

It's more along these lines...

"We don't want anyone caught out, don't look don't find is our moto. If they are stupid enough to get caught, we will throw someone under the bus and do a deal to retain the impression of honesty & integrity."

WADA have a bunch of new evidence. The EFC lawyers are worried....

WADA have a bunch of new evidence. The EFC lawyers are worried....

Source? Details?