On 7/23/2016 at 9:56 PM, beelzebub said:

Ahh this is poignant. It's how I arrive at a much earlier post...alas

No...didnt expect us to win a flag yet.  Just about all to a tee expected us to start knocking on the door by years end. We seem again caught in a revolving door .....i.e in out in out.. chasing it all about going no where.

We ended 15  as 13th with 7 wins.. Its quite possible this year we may end up 14th.

Just doesnt strike me as much of an achievement . Makes a mockery of of the talk and bullshlt that still surrounds this club.

I thought 10 wins a bare pass.  8 or 9 is a fail

Our game day ability to adapt to other teams is woeful. We still lack any real leadership on the field..what happens off filed is all nicey nicey  but where it counts is  once past the white line.

We're still a club of excuses.

As OD has mentioned Jackson's verve for seeking finals this year has gone to ground.

So many here still aspire to mediocre results..  Maybe more than a handful wearing the jumper do as well.

Russell yo yos ought to be our primary sponsor.

 

 

You wrote this trype and we just rolled Hawthorn. Next time think to yourself "If we win 1 game does my argument become invalid?" If the answer is a resounding yes don't post

4 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Any clues as to what that something else might be?

In your opinion Praha, is Dion now committed to Prestia?

Is Dion committed to Prestia?

1 hour ago, Roost It said:

No...didnt expect us to win a flag yet.  Just about all to a tee expected us to start knocking on the door by years end. We seem again caught in a revolving door .....i.e in out in out.. chasing it all about going no where.

We ended 15  as 13th with 7 wins.. Its quite possible this year we may end up 14th.

Just doesnt strike me as much of an achievement . Makes a mockery of of the talk and bullshlt that still surrounds this club.

I thought 10 wins a bare pass.  8 or 9 is a fail

Our game day ability to adapt to other teams is woeful. We still lack any real leadership on the field..what happens off filed is all nicey nicey  but where it counts is  once past the white line.

We're still a club of excuses.

As OD has mentioned Jackson's verve for seeking finals this year has gone to ground.

So many here still aspire to mediocre results..  Maybe more than a handful wearing the jumper do as well.

Russell yo yos ought to be our primary sponsor.

 

 

You wrote this trype and we just rolled Hawthorn. Next time think to yourself "If we win 1 game does my argument become invalid?" If the answer is a resounding yes don't post

On Footy Classifieds, Hutchy, Barrett and Lloyd were all pumping up Melbourne, and Roos in particular. They asked Judd for his opinion, fully expecting him to agree. Judd basically said that the season should be seen as a failure because we didn't make the finals. And if we were content with our incremental improvement, we're destined for failure. 

57 minutes ago, mo64 said:

On Footy Classifieds, Hutchy, Barrett and Lloyd were all pumping up Melbourne, and Roos in particular. They asked Judd for his opinion, fully expecting him to agree. Judd basically said that the season should be seen as a failure because we didn't make the finals. And if we were content with our incremental improvement, we're destined for failure. 

But we haven't quite failed to reach the finals until it is mathematically impossible (which it isn't yet)!

1 hour ago, praha said:

Is Dion committed to Prestia?

Well we know he was, but is he now?

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

On Footy Classifieds, Hutchy, Barrett and Lloyd were all pumping up Melbourne, and Roos in particular. They asked Judd for his opinion, fully expecting him to agree. Judd basically said that the season should be seen as a failure because we didn't make the finals. And if we were content with our incremental improvement, we're destined for failure. 

Judd sounds like a massive c*ckhead, to be fair.

Not sure anyone at the club has been crowing about incremental improvement or the "success" of missing finals.
It's all relative; it's not as if we've finished 12th and are celebrating about challenging for 10th.
We've been spanked by the better teams and implementing damage control, but we've advanced to competing and now sometimes overcoming the bullies of the league.
Anyone with any sense can see where we have improved and the future success available to us if we continue to work hard and do things the right way.

I'd also question what he actually knows about building a winning culture and sustained success himself, considering he was brought to WestCoast when they were set up ready to go, and did sweet FA at Carlton, other than being a great player who practically won a brownlow by default when all the better players fell away with injuries.

30 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Judd sounds like a massive c*ckhead, to be fair.

 

This made me laugh.

I might start using that on DL when i want to sledge a poster:

(insert name) you are the biggest [censored] who has ever expressed an opinion on an internet football fan forum, to be fair

Edited August 12, 20168 yr by binman

[censored] is censored?

2 hours ago, praha said:

Is Dion committed to Prestia?

Haha, clearly had Prestia on the brain (and Richmond slipped to out of mind somewhat).

In your opinion, is he committed to Richmond? 

2 hours ago, mo64 said:

On Footy Classifieds, Hutchy, Barrett and Lloyd were all pumping up Melbourne, and Roos in particular. They asked Judd for his opinion, fully expecting him to agree. Judd basically said that the season should be seen as a failure because we didn't make the finals. And if we were content with our incremental improvement, we're destined for failure. 

I wonder how he sees his own time and achievement at Carlsum then ? 

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

I wonder how he sees his own time and achievement at Carlsum then ? 

probably the greatest team not to win a flag.

The bloke is as arrogant and smug as anyone i have ever met.

Edited August 12, 20168 yr by Demon Disciple

Judd - great footballer, failed leader. Not interested in his opinion

Edited August 12, 20168 yr by chook fowler

5 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Jude - great footballer, failed leader. Not interested in his opinion

Jude Bolton was a great leader.

Oops - have edited the post - and yes I really liked Jude as a player and leader. Very courageous 

20 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Oops - have edited the post - and yes I really liked Jude as a player and leader. Very courageous 

Haha, just being a smartarz. But I agree, Judd was phenomenal on the field but absolutely lacking in other areas. Carlton should have kept Kennedy and spent elsewhere. Ain't hindsight a beautiful thing?

Edited August 12, 20168 yr by Django

11 hours ago, mo64 said:

On Footy Classifieds, Hutchy, Barrett and Lloyd were all pumping up Melbourne, and Roos in particular. They asked Judd for his opinion, fully expecting him to agree. Judd basically said that the season should be seen as a failure because we didn't make the finals. And if we were content with our incremental improvement, we're destined for failure. 

Interesting thoughts from Judd. I guess his point and probably what Roos will leave the players with is be pleased with the improvement but want more. No more honourable losses, we play each game to win. (Just realise I'm posting this in the Prestia thread, where did it go?!)

Edited August 12, 20168 yr by Pates

On 8/12/2016 at 5:32 PM, chook fowler said:

Judd - great footballer, failed leader. Not interested in his opinion

You mean the guy suspended for eye gouging?

50 minutes ago, Roost It said:

You mean the guy suspended for eye gouging?

That's him.

3 hours ago, Roost It said:

You mean the guy suspended for eye gouging?

Eye see what you did there

He could have played for his childhood team, fulfilled his dream. He rolled the dice and went chasing a flag with a bunch of pretenders.

It's a fine line, pull it off and you're a hero. Fail and you're a w@nker. Or is it the other way around...

Purple said prestia commited to richmond on fs tonight

1 minute ago, red and blue forever said:

Purple said prestia commited to richmond on fs tonight

& Gold Coast after Richmonds first rounder (pick 6 at this stage) .. worth that? I can see this coming back to bite Richmond in the backside. 

Richmond tabled an offer to him long ago. In the 650-700k range.

Just now, Die Hard Demon said:

& Gold Coast after Richmonds first rounder (pick 6 at this stage) .. worth that? I can see this coming back to bite Richmond in the backside. 

Very good player but I agree that they would be paying overs with pick 6

Just now, Die Hard Demon said:

& Gold Coast after Richmonds first rounder (pick 6 at this stage) .. worth that? I can see this coming back to bite Richmond in the backside. 

Not sure gold coast will get that for him...   far more than richmond will be willing to pay.   Don't quite understand why you would pick richmond.  And i am assuming we just did not offer him enough money.