I don't get this whole situation.

If he's out of contract, how come we get to trade something for him?

How do we own him at all?

he is not out of contract quite yet. contract year ends after trade time

What it says is that he has agreed to move to the Pies...instead of

He has nominated the pies as his preferred club.

The latter statement is the reality and the actual statement is really only one in hope.

So we let him go to the PSD with nod and a wink to Carltank. Enjoy Carlton Jeremy.

Yeah I think contract end on 31st of October. So we either trade him, or he nominated for ND or PSD.

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4:02 PM - 15 Oct 2015

Mahoney will be on SEN @ 430pm & Traderadio @ 445pm so it will be interesting to see what he says.

Get stu##ed...

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We’ve just spoken off-air to Jeremy Howe’s manager Ben Niall, who confirmed he has agreed to move to the Pies. Buckley relationship the key

3:48 PM - 15 Oct 2015

How can they do this when no deal has been done with MFC?

Has a better relationship with Buckley than he does with Roos? Wow. Says more about the kind of guy Howe is.

Bye bye bogan.

I think we have 2 left on the list that need to go before the "clean out" is complete. Rightly or wrongly, I don't think Watts or Grimes will be offloaded this year.

It has to be Howe for Kennedy and Pick 26 (which will explain why we offloaded 25 for Melksham).

I don't think we got true value out of this trade.

So we get Melksham and Kennedy for Howe and dropping 1 draft spot in second round.

Looking at it that way it's probably reasonable deal.

Mahoney on SEN
- Expressed frustration that this spanner has been thrown in the works from Howe
- Had gone a long way down the road with Gold Coast in negotiations
- Views Kennedy as a seperate deal to the Howe one
- No chance of forcing him into the PSD

Mahoney said on SEN that '...+ pick 6 and Howe for GCS pick 3 and there were other things around that' were part of the GCS negotiations that had been worked thru'. MFC will now deal with Pies. Trade will happen this week. A 1st to 2nd rnd pick will get it done.

Mahoney sounded incredibly flat.

We have publicly declared our hand.

I am incredibly deflated right now.

We will never know what the GCS deal was and what Howe going to Pies will cost us.

Why can't we play hard ball...just once!

Edited October 15, 20159 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Has a better relationship with Buckley than he does with Roos? Wow. Says more about the kind of guy Howe is.

Bye bye bogan.

Nothing whatsoever to do with relationships it has everything to do with $$$$ - $400k a year is a lot of coin to a guy plucked from some obscure Tasmanian village and given a break by MFC - bottom line is our FD did not rate him that much so we move on and try and extract the best possible trade to advance our cause - I for one do not think he is the sort of character that I would rely upon to stand up in finals when the heat is really on - Brayshaw, Hogan, Viney, Petracca, Vince, Jones, YES

Howe not sure !

Way to screw over the club that gave you senior games when you should have been rotting in the VFL. What a piece of [censored] this guy is.

Mahoney on SEN

- Expressed frustration that this spanner has been thrown in the works from Howe

- Had gone a long way down the road with Gold Coast in negotiations

- Views Kennedy as a seperate deal to the Howe one

- No chance of forcing him into the PSD

Mahoney also said part of the GC deal was to swap picks 3 & 6. Suns have offered a contract to Howe.

Get stuffed Pies, unless they give us something bloody good we should nominate Suns as our 'preferred' trading club.

Why can't we play hard ball...just once!

We can't force a player to go where they don't want to. All we could do would be to force him to the PSD, but that's cutting off our nose to spite our face.

Collingwood can get [censored], either make them do a better deal than GC or just trade him to GC.

I don't see why the player gets a say.

Where the hell does he get off being able to call it.

I call bullshlt !!

Grow somw Melbourne ffs

Well he is uncontracted for a start.

Nice of Howe to give us a kick in the balls as he leaves the building.

I never disliked him but after today he is right up there on my Scullyometer.

Well done.

Collingwood can get [censored], either make them do a better deal than GC or just trade him to GC.

I don't see why the player gets a say.

Can you do that?

We can't force a player to go where they don't want to. All we could do would be to force him to the PSD, but that's cutting off our nose to spite our face.

We could do that, what is the difference between the Howe & Carlisle scenarios? Essendon are looking to deal with the clubs that satisfy their needs versus Melbourne looking to do a deal with the club that suits Howe's needs. Mahoney needs to grow a set, that is the difference.

Get stuffed Howe. Screwing us til the very end.

Really [censored] stuff from him. Wasted the entire season giving him games while he ran around doing SFA, and now he makes a final hour decision after we've already made a deal with GC.

I want so bad to throw him into the PSD, but I know we can't afford to. He deserves it though!

The PSD is a big threat. I don't think Howe will want to go to Carlton. Force his hand. GC or Carlton.

Olisik, I need you here little buddy...

How would we get Pick 7 out of them (Collingwood)?

If we offload Toumpas to Port for 29, do we give them Howe and 29 for 7?

Can you do that?

Yes, we hold the cards, Howe can go to the PSD if he doesn't like it.