Gator 18,053 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Dont agree with that. I think he has been offered a contract that is in line with his performance, and what the club deems to be fair market value based on that. A dozen speccies a year does not a $500,000+ player make! (or whatever ridiculous amount he was asking) Those figures were never right. Collingwood are offering him $400K. I suspect we were south of $300K - certainly no more than $300K. Happy to disagree.
ijbfossil 77 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 See Howe said he battled to produce his best at a struggling club - not bad seeing the Dees beat the Pies last time - absolutely screw Collingwood for all MFC can get. (so cheesed off seeing Frawley get a Premiership medal tho I know the compensation was O K) Equalisation is dead (as it always has been) as (some) players will go to the stronger clubs for a bit less. Not that Howe will get a Premiership medal at Collwood. In the last 15 years the NRL with 16 teams have had eleven different Premiers with no club winning consecutive flags. Contrast the AFL with 18 teams and only 7 different Premiers in the last 15 years with 2 "threepeats" and maybe a "fourpeat" coming up!! (and the Cats 3 in 5 years). Clearly the NRL have a better system.
GawnWithTheWind 604 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Those figures were never right. Collingwood are offering him $400K. I suspect we were south of $300K - certainly no more than $300K. Happy to disagree. Surely he is worth more than average AFL wage... I'd say we offered 350x3
Sir Why You Little 37,450 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Howe was never pushed out of The MFC he switched himself off when it suited him I am so sick of paying wages to players like this
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 See Howe said he battled to produce his best at a struggling club - not bad seeing the Dees beat the Pies last time - absolutely screw Collingwood for all MFC can get. (so cheesed off seeing Frawley get a Premiership medal tho I know the compensation was O K) Equalisation is dead (as it always has been) as (some) players will go to the stronger clubs for a bit less. Not that Howe will get a Premiership medal at Collwood. In the last 15 years the NRL with 16 teams have had eleven different Premiers with no club winning consecutive flags. Contrast the AFL with 18 teams and only 7 different Premiers in the last 15 years with 2 "threepeats" and maybe a "fourpeat" coming up!! (and the Cats 3 in 5 years). Clearly the NRL have a better system. Now....I know this is rogue....I know it's left field , radical and somewhat nouveau in thinking, but I just have this odd idea that Jeremy is, well how does one say this , Full of Shlt !!
stuie 7,374 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 The people getting all their panties in a twist over Howe declaring a club he'd like to get traded to after receiving offers from us, north, subs and pies. Ours is the worst offer I'm sure. Players have always chosen when demand is their. This is never going to change, you would think we were losing Jones or Hogan the way people are up in arms. I think it's more about the way Howe and his manager have handled it and what we can potentially get back rather than what we're losing.
GM11 793 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 See Howe said he battled to produce his best at a struggling club - not bad seeing the Dees beat the Pies last time - absolutely screw Collingwood for all MFC can get. (so cheesed off seeing Frawley get a Premiership medal tho I know the compensation was O K) Equalisation is dead (as it always has been) as (some) players will go to the stronger clubs for a bit less. Not that Howe will get a Premiership medal at Collwood. In the last 15 years the NRL with 16 teams have had eleven different Premiers with no club winning consecutive flags. Contrast the AFL with 18 teams and only 7 different Premiers in the last 15 years with 2 "threepeats" and maybe a "fourpeat" coming up!! (and the Cats 3 in 5 years). Clearly the NRL have a better system. Sorry Jeremy, but you obviously didn't see too many pies games after the bye.
What 18,810 Posted October 16, 2015 Author Posted October 16, 2015 I wonder if Watts would be open to a move to Gold Coast and if they'd want him? Watts and pick 6 for pick 3 and a 2nd rouncer
Brayshaw Self 847 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Why don't we offer to pay an extra $100-200,000 of Howe's wage on top of GC's offer if he goes to GC? If we replace him with a kid, we won't be using more salary cap space anyway. A bit out there but why not?
praha 11,267 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Why don't we offer to pay an extra $100-200,000 of Howe's wage on top of GC's offer if he goes to GC? If we replace him with a kid, we won't be using more salary cap space anyway. A bit out there but why not? Reminds me too much of the Woey trade.
Mach5 4,768 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Why don't we offer to pay an extra $100-200,000 of Howe's wage on top of GC's offer if he goes to GC? If we replace him with a kid, we won't be using more salary cap space anyway. A bit out there but why not? I like your thinking. Maybe not necessary though. Nice to have it there kept up our sleeve as a last resort.
ex52k2 250 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I believe the MFC hold all the cards not Mister Howe. The reason we own him until 31-10-15. We should get together with mister Howe and agent TODAY and tell him the facts of life. Place on the table both CFC and suns deals and compare them against one another. If they are similar for the MFC then it dosnt matter where he goes. If the suns deal is better, then Gold coast here you come. If Mister Howe wont go to the Suns then explain to him and his manager the options. A. Go to the suns, deal done. B. Don't go to suns then.... go in the ND and proberly get picked up by anybody other than CFC as they wont have any first round picks if possible trades go thru. .... go in the PSD and as we have an earlier pick than CFC hello HOWEE WE WILL REDRAFT YOU. .... sit out of football for a year, think about it, no money,a year older and you still have to come back via the draft.
bandicoot 1,395 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 It's got nothing to do with whether I rate him or not, that is irrelevant in the context of what I am talking about. The fact is we held all the cards & pulled the trigger on the deal & buckled to Essendons demands when we possibly could have waited to see how the other trades panned out. Now we don't have pick 25 to use in any other trades & Essendon potentially have it over us when trying to get pick 8 from GWS. Draft picks can be over rated I agree, but this isn't just about picks it is about jostling for the best position in the trade period. There were numerous other options possibly available to us with time to try & get other deals done. We could have done this trade for Melksham with 1 hour or less to go in the trade period. 1 week in and the only club that has come out in front so far is Geelong. 17 other clubs are all neutral. Other then Dangerfield, no A grade midfielder has been mooted as available. For one to appear out of nowhere is a little optimistic.
Bring-Back-Powell 15,534 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Jesse White for Jeremy Howe straight swap. Sauce - Social media.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I believe the MFC hold all the cards not Mister Howe. The reason we own him until 31-10-15. We should get together with mister Howe and agent TODAY and tell him the facts of life. Place on the table both CFC and suns deals and compare them against one another. If they are similar for the MFC then it dosnt matter where he goes. If the suns deal is better, then Gold coast here you come. If Mister Howe wont go to the Suns then explain to him and his manager the options. A. Go to the suns, deal done. B. Don't go to suns then.... go in the ND and proberly get picked up by anybody other than CFC as they wont have any first round picks if possible trades go thru. .... go in the PSD and as we have an earlier pick than CFC hello HOWEE WE WILL REDRAFT YOU. .... sit out of football for a year, think about it, no money,a year older and you still have to come back via the draft. This is my flavour of thought. I do like it.......however Alas I dont know we'd 1) do it ...or 2) that it would have desired result Bit of a game of blink though. The rub to it al ls how quickly do we need this to move in order to do other deals ?
Mondê 525 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Jesse White for Jeremy Howe straight swap. Sauce - Social media. That is truly disgusting.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Jesse White for Jeremy Howe straight swap. Sauce - Social media. I'd do that facebook or not...I dont mind it for what it is.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 That is truly disgusting. why..seriously and dont tel lme White is useless.. No #1 fwd perhaps....but we DONT need that
Mondê 525 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I'd do that facebook or not...I dont mind it for what it is. Are you serious? White can't hit the side of a barn shed. A truly awful set shot for goal. Arguably worse than Cloke, and that's saying something.
Yossarian 1,820 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Jesse White for Jeremy Howe straight swap. Sauce - Social media. Gross.
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Jesse White for Jeremy Howe straight swap. Sauce - Social media. I think I feel ill...
H_T 3,049 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I'd do that facebook or not...I dont mind it for what it is. There's one way to prevent Hogan from signing....
dazzledavey36 56,278 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Jesse White for Jeremy Howe straight swap. Sauce - Social media. Id rather stick a syringe in my eye.
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Jesse White for Jeremy Howe straight swap. Sauce - Social media. I LOL'D!
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I think I feel ill... makes me ill just thinking hes going to the filth for unders anways ( most likely ) Watch someone rumour White and Kennedy for Howe If he aint going to budge and go north.. we might have to think differently what will nix it though is he can't ruck for shlt.. so probably everyone can relax
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