What are the chances of James Harmes being elevated into one of the possible 2 senior vacancies. Like the look of this kid.

Considering King is injured and he has been on our list longer then White I would say his chances are pretty high.

Edited March 2, 201511 yr by ILLDieADemon

Harmes and Vandenberg to the senior list. Not sure if we'll persist with King yet.

Harmes and Vandenberg to the senior list. Not sure if we'll persist with King yet.

Not sure either is in the best 22 yet.

Not sure either is in the best 22 yet.

Maybe not Harmes, but I like what I've seen of Vandenberg so far. But both will probably be upgraded to compensate the loss of Trengove and Petracca who'll eventually be moved to the LTIL

Edited March 2, 201511 yr by Demon Jack

Maybe not Harmes, but I like what I've seen of Vandenberg so far. But both will probably be upgraded to compensate the loss of Trengove and Petracca who'll eventually be moved to the LTIL

Both will only be promoted if they are due to play games. Giving them money for nothing if they haven't earnt a debut. But I expect both to go close if they stay fit for the year.

I don't think there is any rush to promote the rookies......The main season is still 5 weeks away

you can do it at any time through the season......When they are up to playing senior footy.

I think both will play NAB games and they will assess them from there.

I think Vandenberg may impress. From looking at him at pre-season training his attack on the ball and size is good. I think his skills are still probably not quite AFL standard but you can tell he really wants it which is always admirable. I think fans of Tappscott may like Vandenberg.

Not sure if we'll persist with King yet.

What does that even mean ? He is going to get his marching orders before the season even starts ?

Why is it so hard to understand that young ruckman always have been, always are and always will be a work in progress. They are always given more time than a speculative midfielder or back flanker as they take so much longer to develop.

While we persist with Spencer, we persist with King.

While we persist with Spencer, we persist with King.

Shame we can't merge them into one, because they appear to be quite different types of ruckman. The muscular aggression of Spencer combined with the kicking skills of King. Hmmm.....

While we persist with Spencer, we persist with King.

And I would have thought if we don't persist with Spencer we are even more likely to persist with King.

Considering Harmes hasn't been listed in the 29 mans squad going to Freo, I think the odds of him being upgraded have lengthened!

Shame we can't merge them into one, because they appear to be quite different types of ruckman. The muscular aggression of Spencer combined with the kicking skills of King. Hmmm.....

You need to be patient, King took out White today in match sim with a beautiful tackle that wrapped up the ball as well

King is a natural footballer who has 12 months to get his tank right. If he is struggling to play games out by the end of the year at Casey with his tank being his big focus this year he may well be shown the door, but 12 months is a long time in footy & I like what I see with him so I hope he makes it.

Spencer has another year after this on his contract, not going anywhere despite talk on DL, but he is what he is, a career VFL/backup ruck, not No1 AFL ruck imo. He's an experienced, mature bodied insurance in the ruck (anyone else remember Roos saying you need a ruck 'division' to rotate these days last year - we'll continue to have multiple options on the list post Jamar too).

Back on topic, I think Vandenberg will be first cab off the rank this year, but hope Harmes forces his way for a look in also. The more blokes pushing for selection from both the main list & rookie list the better of course! But I don't think anyone's 'getting out of Harmes way'. He'll have to push them out of his way on his own merits.

yes I would like to see us give either Harmes or Vandenburg an upgrade this year if they show good form at Casey.

yes I would like to see us give either Harmes or Vandenburg an upgrade this year if they show good form at Casey.

Considering we have both Petracca and Trengove to replace on our list, maybe it doesn't necessarily have to be "or"! I suspect that Mitchell White maybe the fly in the ointment standing in the way of one of them.

Edited March 3, 201511 yr by CBDees

Not enough love for this bloke after his effort on Saturday.

Loved the grab and first goal, and he definitely showed some tenacity.

Here's to hoping he can get another crack at starting on the field.

Not enough love for this bloke after his effort on Saturday.

Totally agree Davo.

Did some nice things on the weekend and has shown enough in previous games that he's made of the right stuff.

Edited August 3, 201510 yr by Fork 'em

A certainty for upgrade, you would think.

Agree with today's posters.

This young man seems to not only have a bit of mongrel but also a good bit of tenacity/speed/workrate.

Skills might need some polish.

Not enough love for this bloke after his effort on Saturday.

Loved the grab and first goal, and he definitely showed some tenacity.

Here's to hoping he can get another crack at starting on the field.

Definitely added a lot of life & movement when he came on.

One of those players who always looks up and about, obviously enjoying his footy. Good to see because he's got some pace and flair and represents a point of difference from the serious, dour inside mid types.

What are the chances of James Harmes being elevated into one of the possible 2 senior vacancies. Like the look of this kid.

Out of Harmes Way = Oohw

ffs, just get Oohw !

Edited August 3, 201510 yr by dee-luded

I love the effort he puts in. He just throws himself at the contest and holds nothing back. He still needs to work on his skills, but you can't possibly fault the work ethic and he's now had a couple of games and is getting his head around the pace of the game. I think he's going to make it.