Last year we improved our defence out of sight, and bridged the % gap

what's a realistic pass mark for the Melbourne fc in 2015?

I would expect the club to finally break out of the bottom 4, 6 wins would be nice, and to show more potency up forward

the further emergence and development of the young core we are building of Viney, Hogan, Salem, Toumpas and co hopefully all can lock down best 22 positions this year, and guys like Viney and Tyson can take another step forward.

Unearthing a few more players would be great too, i expect Newton to come in and play senior footy right away, i reckon Vandenberg has a bit to like about him too.

According to PJ we're looking to make finals next year, that means we need to roughly win around 8 games this year, then 12-13 games to crack it into the bottom 8.

that should be our pass mark.

  On 26/02/2015 at 02:25, BrisbaneDemon said:

According to PJ we're looking to make finals next year, that means we need to roughly win around 8 games this year, then 12-13 games to crack it into the bottom 8.

that should be our pass mark.

and one that i think is very attainable, 4 wins last year, 9 games we were in a very winnable position, add another quality pre season, some new recruits, Hogan to add far more structure and confidence kicking forward and i think some of those games become wins rather than losses.

we really need guys like Salem and Toumpas to lock down spots if at all possible though, i love Matt Jones and the way he plays but i really think for us to go forward as a club our young talent needs to overtake those kind of players.

Pass Mark: 8 wins

6 wins may still see us in the bottom 4.

Would like to be ultra competitive and snag 8 or so wins.

Continue the upward trend is the major thing.

On a personal level, to leave the football feeling positive and upbeat for a change - win, lose or draw.

four wins last year was a major disappointment. Key injuries cost us several games, so that I would consider 6 or 7 wins last year as a 2014 base level. How much improvement on that? Barring exceptional bad luck with injuries, which will always justify special consideration, I'd be looking for 9 or 10 wins as a pass.

For me, is top 8 or very close to barring injuries. Lets face it, it is the second year with Roosy nailing down on the game plan. We have some young guys and guys that are in their prime. We have added speed in the back and forward line now so it has upped the team by a fair bit. If we don't get close I would be disappointed. Again.

8

we were competetive in at least 9 games in 2014 (in that we were leading in the last quarter). That needs to improve to 15 games.

We will be outclassed by Haw, Swans, Eagles, Geelong and Freo at home. Other than that we should be there abouts in all others which by my reckoning is 15 games. And hopefully we win half of those...so I am going with 8.

That will make the season much more enjoyable.

BUT we have to win the first game because I am sick and tired of getting excited about the start of the year and having the cra*p kicked out of us in Rd 1.

For me, the pass mark won't necessarily be determined in the W/L column. However, I want to go into maybe 15 or 16 games believing that we have a realistic chance of winning. If that occurs, confidence and form will improve, and I believe we will be in a sound position to push for a berth in the bottom half of the eight in 2016.

Finals.

For some time I have felt the club list, improved somewhat from last year, is capable of 8 wins. That should be our minimum measure of success.

As always, MFC will probably win 2-3 we don't expect to win, and lose a couple that we don't expect to lose. Predicting specific wins/losses is no easily during the season than it is before the season starts.

Losing to St Kilda last year in Round 1 was one of the "upsets" that was extremely discouraging (to be polite).

I expect us to get 6 or 7 wins, not a pass mark as such, but a realistic expectation

That being said, if it clicks, we have so much raw talent now anything is possible, but still think Roos needs another year

Juggling that other teams mainly improve as well with the fact we shoulda won maybe 2 more, I think 5 wins is ok and that 6 or more shows 25% improvement.

8 wins is probably about right, but it's just as much about the vibe.

Improving sides have a vibe.

7 wins and 14th on the ladder.

In 2013 we were VFL level quality it is only two years later.

  On 26/02/2015 at 03:44, jabberwocky said:

8 wins is probably about right, but it's just as much about the vibe.

Improving sides have a vibe.

agreed.. I would like to see us take it up to the best sides on a few occasions so that we can build some belief. If we get 8 wins, but they are all against the bottom 6 sides, and the top6 sides all thrash us soundly, that's not so great for the future.

  On 26/02/2015 at 03:47, old dee said:

7 wins and 14th on the ladder.

In 2013 we were VFL level quality it is only two years later.

but we do have an elite coach and a very solid list turnover of about 10 spots in our regular 22 since then

not to mention more high draft picks

we should be on the way back

  On 26/02/2015 at 03:49, Curry & Beer said:

but we do have an elite coach and a very solid list turnover of about 10 spots in our regular 22 since then

not to mention more high draft picks

we should be on the way back

IMO C and B 7 wins and 14th is on the way back from 2013.

That is sign of how bad we were in 2013

  On 26/02/2015 at 02:43, Barra17 said:

For me, is top 8 or very close to barring injuries.

This.

I would be disappointed if we don't finish on top of Bulldogs, Saints, Drugs, Carlton. Out of the Victorian teams, we are amongst the most stable, off field at least (can't believe I'm saying that). Throw in Tiges for good measure ( they are [censored], they just scrapped into the 8 last year and have made no improvement to their list over last trade period)

For me it is to convert into wins more of the games we have the lead in the last qtr

Being better than the last 8 seasons would be a good start.

Not feeling like sh?t cause we follow a basket case of a team would also be a nice change.

14th (out of the bottom four).