Melbourne injury list: round 13 (bye weekend)

Sam Frost (toe) 6 weeks

Colin Garland (hand) test

Jack Grimes (thumb) test

Jesse Hogan (hamstring) test

Jayden Hunt (jaw) test

Dean Kent (hamstring) 4 weeks

Ben Newton (concussion) test

Cameron Pedersen (wrist) season

Christian Petracca (knee) season

Christian Salem (hamstring) 3 weeks

Jack Trengove (foot) season

Aaron vandenBerg (hamstring) 2 weeks

Misson's comments of interest:

* Frost to start running next week!

* Kent in full training next week! Ahead of Vanders and Salem, just needs to get fitness back.

* Petracca has started running fluently. Stated that most guys coming back from ACLs carry a significant limp.

The Gods have finally changed their tune!!

So Frost has actually gone out a week but Grimes has come in six weeks. Can only assume Jack is part gecko and has regenerated his thumb or perhaps it wasn't actually broken in the first place.

Out of all those still injured I think we are missing Salem the most. The kid is all class

So Frost has actually gone out a week but Grimes has come in six weeks. Can only assume Jack is part gecko and has regenerated his thumb or perhaps it wasn't actually broken in the first place.

Out of all those still injured I think we are missing Salem the most. The kid is all class

Of those still injured I think we are missing the most,

1 Frost plays back - forward- 2nd ruck and can run

2 vandenBerg - run and hardness

3 Salem - class

4 Trengove

5 Petracca

6 Pedersen

7 Newton

Edit: I left out Kent I would have him above Trengrove - sorry

Edited June 25, 201510 yr by ManDee

Colin Garland (hand) – test
Jack Grimes (thumb) – test
Jesse Hogan (hamstring) – test
Aaron vandenBerg (hamstring) – 2 weeks
Christian Salem (hamstring) – 3 weeks
Dean Kent (hamstring) – 4 weeks
Sam Frost (toe) – 6 weeks

Looks like we will be near full strength for about the last 7 matches. Unless more injuries happen. Which they will.

WTF Grimes, 9 days ago they said 6-8 weeks... does this mean he is on the cards for the WC game?

Of those still injured I think we are missing the most,

My thinking on who we need most (and will play this year)

In order my top 6 are:

1 Hogan - well duh

2 vandenBerg - run and hardness

3/4/5 Salem - class / Garland - as good but different to Salem / Kent - I need to see what others find obvious

6 Frost - Im a Gawn/Spencer 2 ruck kind of guy

Misson's comments of interest:

-frost to start running next week!

-Kent in full training next week!! Ahead of Vanders and Salem, just needs to get fitness back.

-Petracca has started running fluently. Stated that most guys coming back from ACLs carry a significant limp.

The Gods have finally changed their tune!!

Sneaky for finals.....

Misson's comments of interest:

-frost to start running next week!

-Kent in full training next week!! Ahead of Vanders and Salem, just needs to get fitness back.

-Petracca has started running fluently. Stated that most guys coming back from ACLs carry a significant limp.

The Gods have finally changed their tune!!

+ also said Trengove will have another scan late July to decide when he starts running.

Sneaky for finals.....

In all seriousness, when was the last time we had a player debut in a final?

Sometime in the roaring twenties would be my guess.

Of those still injured I think we are missing the most,

1 Frost plays back - forward- 2nd ruck and can run

2 vandenBerg - run and hardness

3 Salem - class

4 Trengrove

5 Petracca

6 Pedersen

7 Newton

Think we haven't missed Frost all that much as we have good depth with Garland, Dunn, Mcdonald, H etc. Having said that I would have liked to see him getting games and developing.

Don't rate Kent?

Trengoves hard to rate because he is a bit of an unknown same with Petracca.

Interesting comment from the mid season review with Roos - talked really positively about Newton "no doubt he is going to improve a lot..."

1. VandemBerg

2. Salem

3. Frost

4. Kent

Edited June 25, 201510 yr by Young Dee

Think we haven't missed Frost all that much as we have good depth with Garland, Dunn, Mcdonald, H etc. Having said that I would have liked to see him getting games and developing.

Don't rate Kent?

Trengoves hard to rate because he is a bit of an unknown same with Petracca.

Interesting comment from the mid season review with Roos - talked really positively about Newton "no doubt he is going to improve a lot..."

1. VandemBerg

2. Salem

3. Frost

4. Kent

Sorry YD I missed Kent, so I do rate him at 4 above Trengove on my list. Nice pick up. I have edited by earlier post. Thanks

In all seriousness, when was the last time we had a player debut in a final?

Sometime in the roaring twenties would be my guess.

I'm pretty sure the roaring twenties was the last time we played finals... or so it feels

Grimes is superhuman. What the hell?

I still think that of all the injured players we miss Kent the most. His replacements up forward leave a lot to be desired.

In all seriousness, when was the last time we had a player debut in a final?

Sometime in the roaring twenties would be my guess.

Well i was being s........., I do seem to remember somebody making a debut in a final, but not for us......

So Frost has actually gone out a week but Grimes has come in six weeks. Can only assume Jack is part gecko and has regenerated his thumb or perhaps it wasn't actually broken in the first place.

Out of all those still injured I think we are missing Salem the most. The kid is all class

According to Misson, "Grimesy broke that thumb and he had an operation. He had plates and screws put in, rather than wires, so thats going to dictate that hes able to come back earlier."

Melbourne injury list: round 13 (bye weekend)

Sam Frost (toe) 6 weeks

Colin Garland (hand) test

Jack Grimes (thumb) test

Jesse Hogan (hamstring) test

Jayden Hunt (jaw) test

Dean Kent (hamstring) 4 weeks

Ben Newton (concussion) test

Cameron Pedersen (wrist) season

Christian Petracca (knee) season

Christian Salem (hamstring) 3 weeks

Jack Trengove (foot) season

Aaron vandenBerg (hamstring) 2 weeks

Much better than the one they had on the Age website a couple of days ago. On the basis of the latest list we should have a few putting their hands up for a place in the team with a couple more not too far away.

Must suck if you're an AFL player who's a guitarist in their spare time with all the potential for finger injuries

I think the injury is a bit of a blessing for vanders. He started to look absolutely buggered at times, so a nice freshen up will do him some good.

So Frost has actually gone out a week but Grimes has come in six weeks. Can only assume Jack is part gecko and has regenerated his thumb or perhaps it wasn't actually broken in the first place.

Out of all those still injured I think we are missing Salem the most. The kid is all class

Kent?

vandenBerg?

Kent?

vandenBerg?

Look I rate vandenBerg but he's the type of player that everyone praises in his first season saying geee we need more like him and then by his third season he's a list clogger that needs to be delisted. The obvious deficency in his game compared to other demonland whipping boy favourites is his displosal efficency.

vandenBerg 57.1%

Bail 66.7%

McKenzie 77.8%

M. Jones 82.1%

Grimes 88.5%

Look I rate vandenBerg but he's the type of player that everyone praises in his first season saying geee we need more like him and then by his third season he's a list clogger that needs to be delisted. The obvious deficency in his game compared to other demonland whipping boy favourites is his displosal efficency.

vandenBerg 57.1%

Bail 66.7%

McKenzie 77.8%

M. Jones 82.1%

Grimes 88.5%

I think VandenBerg is the real deal.

His presence, pressure and poise at AFL level after an interrupted pre-season has been amazing. Give him a couple of pre-seasons refining his craft and engine under a good development regime (as opposed to Ainsley!) will have him flourish in a Barlow like way... an great find.

For our long term growth, I think not getting multiple games into Salem and kent at the moment is the most telling. They are crucial for us going forward, far more so than Frost.

Look I rate vandenBerg but he's the type of player that everyone praises in his first season saying geee we need more like him and then by his third season he's a list clogger that needs to be delisted. The obvious deficency in his game compared to other demonland whipping boy favourites is his displosal efficency.

vandenBerg 57.1%

Bail 66.7%

McKenzie 77.8%

M. Jones 82.1%

Grimes 88.5%

I understand what you are saying - we have seen these types before - but VDB for me thus far has shown some extreme influence on a number of occassions, what he has done is not 'flash in the pan' stuff. It might be a bit early but I reckon he's a bit of a goer. The main thing is that he plays with the hard-as-nails attitude that Jones, Vince, Brayshaw, Viney, Dawes, Dunn, McDonald, Hogan and Cross play with.. this is the attitude that takes us to the next level. We have had others in the past with the attitude but not the ability (eg Magner) but I'm thinking vandemon isn't one of these

Look I rate vandenBerg but he's the type of player that everyone praises in his first season saying geee we need more like him and then by his third season he's a list clogger that needs to be delisted. The obvious deficency in his game compared to other demonland whipping boy favourites is his displosal efficency.

vandenBerg 57.1%

Bail 66.7%

McKenzie 77.8%

M. Jones 82.1%

Grimes 88.5%

IMO his kicking was fine during the NAB Cup and first couple of games. It then went pear-shaped.

This tells me he can kick but have no idea why this skill has suddenly (and fingers crossed, temporarily) deserted him

IMO his kicking was fine during the NAB Cup and first couple of games. It then went pear-shaped.

This tells me he can kick but have no idea why this skill has suddenly (and fingers crossed, temporarily) deserted him

No, that stat doesn't tell you anything.

For one, it's disposal efficiency, not kicking efficiency. So theoretically the low value could be because his handpassing is appalling.

However, as has been done to death on this site, the DE statistic is a waste of space and says very little about a player's ability to dispose of the ball.

vandenBerg will be a star.