My final outs would be: Cross, Jamar, McKenzie, Fitzpatrick, Riley, Bail, Terlich.

Hunt outcome pending trades - will delist and rookie if no further reduction in player numbers. Sign otherwise.

Candidates for trade: Watts, Grimes, Howe.

Re-sign: Garland, Toumpas, Pedersen, Michie.

Promote: Harmes, vandenBerg [Edited for clarity]

Retain: White, King.

My final outs would be: Cross, Jamar, McKenzie, Fitzpatrick, Riley, Bail, Terlich.

Hunt outcome pending trades - will delist and rookie if no further reduction in player numbers. Sign otherwise.

Candidates for trade: Watts, Grimes, Howe.

Re-sign: Garland, Toumpas, Pedersen, Michie.

Promote: Harmes.

Retain: White, King.

And presumably you've forgotten about vandenBerg. Promote?

And presumably you've forgotten about vandenBerg. Promote?

I thought he had already signed.

And presumably you've forgotten about vandenBerg. Promote?

I thought he had already signed.

It's not technically done yet but he has signed for two years.

He will be promoted with the last, or second last if Harmes is promoted, pick in the ND.

Ah, pressure is on now (hyperventilating).

I really just took 'offence' so I could use the GIF, I swear...

The GIF!!

Nah, I thought it was worthwhile. I probably should have done it much earlier, been following it with interest. Jamar retires (career comes to close).

2019

Jones 27,

2018

Brayshaw 19, Petracca 19, Gawn 23,

2017

Dunn 27, Hogan 20, Viney 20, Lumumba 28, Kennedy-Harris20, Salem 19, Vandenberg 23,

2016

Trengove 22, Dawes 26, Grimes 25 (RFA), Watts 24 (RFA), Vince 29, Tyson* 21, Kent 21, M Jones 27, Spencer 25 (UFA), T McDonald 22, Terlich 25, Jetta 25, Garlett 25, Stretch 18, Frost 21, Newton 22, Neal-Bullen 19, O McDonald 19

2015

Jamar 31 (UFA), Garland 26 (RFA), McKenzie 24, Howe 24, Fitzpatrick 23, Toumpas 21, Pedersen 28, Hunt 19, Cross 32, Bail 26, Riley 23, Michie 23, Harmes ® 19, King ® 19, White ® 18

OUT: Cross (Ret.), Jamar (Del.)

INS: Vandenberg (Upgraded), ND5, ND27, ND47, ND66, ND86, ND100

Open Spots - PL: 1 RL: 1

Jamar update. There will probably be some more changes over the weekend.

Jamar update. There will probably be some more changes over the weekend.

So, reading between the lines, I suspect you might be of the view that Cross and Jamar are announced prior to the B&F night to give the room an opportunity to praise them while anyone else who will not get a new contract can still attend without feeling shamed. If so, that's a professional approach by the club.

Judging bye Roos talk on 360 I would think that announcement wont be divulged until next week on who got the chop. I agree with Nashers appraisal ( Cross, Jamar, McKenzie, Fitzpatrick, Riley, Bail, Terlich) but would be putting a line through Hunt as well as Matt Jones

Jamar update. There will probably be some more changes over the weekend.

Did Toumpas re-sign?

Never mind, he hasn't - just checked.

I'm finding it very odd with all the delistings going on in other clubs that we have been so tight lipped. I thought one of us would be in the know with some news. Nothing on Big Footy either. When did our club get so damn good at keeping secrets!

I'm finding it very odd with all the delistings going on in other clubs that we have been so tight lipped. I thought one of us would be in the know with some news. Nothing on Big Footy either. When did our club get so damn good at keeping secrets!

Its a great point, was thinking as much today. I put it down to the "Trengove Factor", and by that I mean players will be shopped around without their knowledge, if a likely suitor is found player x will have 24 hours to make a decision(if that's the case they should just go because it's clear they are not wanted). If no suitor is found player x is none the wiser. We have enough passengers as it is without making them disgruntled.

Its a great point, was thinking as much today. I put it down to the "Trengove Factor", and by that I mean players will be shopped around without their knowledge, if a likely suitor is found player x will have 24 hours to make a decision(if that's the case they should just go because it's clear they are not wanted). If no suitor is found player x is none the wiser. We have enough passengers as it is without making them disgruntled.

The players know where they stand. Sure names get bandied around but a player knows if he is in the grey zone.

The players know where they stand. Sure names get bandied around but a player knows if he is in the grey zone.

I thought the Trengove to Richmond caught everyone off guard including Jack himself.

I thought the Trengove to Richmond caught everyone off guard including Jack himself.

And I'm not sure if Bernie knew Adelaide we're going to bundle him off to Melbourne

as long as we keep Viney, Salem, Hogan, Brayshaw, Petracca, T-Mac, Dunn, Jetta, N. Jones, Vince, Garlett, vandenBURG, Kent, Harmes, Frost, Trengove, Stretch, A-NB, JKH, Gawn, plus a handful of others, I'm happy

2019

Jones 27,

2018

Brayshaw 19, Petracca 19, Gawn 23,

2017

Dunn 27, Hogan 20, Viney 20, Lumumba 28, Kennedy-Harris20, Salem 19, Vandenberg 23,

2016

Trengove 22, Dawes 26, Grimes 25 (RFA), Watts 24 (RFA), Vince 29, Tyson* 21, Kent 21, M Jones 27, Spencer 25 (UFA), T McDonald 22, Terlich 25, Jetta 25, Garlett 25, Stretch 18, Frost 21, Newton 22, Neal-Bullen 19, O McDonald 19

2015

Jamar 31 (UFA), McKenzie 24, Cross 32, Bail 26, Riley 23, Fitzpatrick 23, Garland 26 (RFA), Howe 24, Toumpas 21, Pedersen 28, Hunt 19, Michie 23, Harmes ® 19, King ® 19, White ® 18

OUT: Cross (Ret.), Jamar (Del.), McKenzie (Del.), Riley (Del.), Bail (Del.), Fitzpatrick (Del.)

INS: Vandenberg (Upgraded), ND5, ND27, ND47, ND66, ND86, ND100

Open Spots - PL: 5 RL: 1

Updated. 5 spots available with 6 players OOC on the PL.

Terlich survives the delisting. FMD

Terlich survives the delisting. FMD

Still under contract.

Updated. 5 spots available with 6 players OOC on the PL.

Just to clarify, are you assuming vandenBerg will be upgraded leaving 5 spots or has the decision to upgrade him already been announced?

Next year is the big one for me.

Watts

Grimes

Dawes

M.jones

Terlich

Spencer

Only then will we be free.

Just to clarify, are you assuming vandenBerg will be upgraded leaving 5 spots or has the decision to upgrade him already been announced?

He's got a contract till 2017. He will be upgraded at the end of the coming ND.

Next year is the big one for me.

Watts

Grimes

Dawes

M.jones

Terlich

Spencer

Only then will we be free.

While it is harsh it is true. It is clear that it takes 3-4 preseasons for a coach to make the list theirs. And if you have to prune as heavily as we have it takes time for the new players to gel and for it all to click.

By the start of next preseason, Roos will have done that, and Godwin will be able to mould the list unencumbered with the past.

I can't see how Terlich could possibly survive. Only player on the senior list who was not injured who didn't get near the side. The only other non-injured players who didn't play at all were the projects Hunt and King. The coach clearly has no intention of playing him, so terminate the contract and free up the spot for a player who has a greater than 0% chance of getting selected.

The cost of paying him is unavoidable, so don't worry about that at all.

INS: Vandenberg (Upgraded), ND5, ND27, ND47, ND66, ND86, ND100

Thanks for keeping this constantly updated rpfc, two points

- ND 5 should now be ND 6

- Have you calculated the later ND picks based on adjustments already in the system? (The gaps are 22, 20, 19, 20 and 14, apologies if this has been discussed earlier).

I can't see how Terlich could possibly survive. Only player on the senior list who was not injured who didn't get near the side. The only other non-injured players who didn't play at all were the projects Hunt and King. The coach clearly has no intention of playing him, so terminate the contract and free up the spot for a player who has a greater than 0% chance of getting selected.

The cost of paying him is unavoidable, so don't worry about that at all.

Forgetting Jordie?

Your point still stands though.