Sometimes it is better to "sit on your hands"

[Dees2014 2,377]

I know there was considerable frustration on this site that we did not land some "big fish" over the trade period. Clearly for various reason, particularly the unfortunate Trengove revelation no one wanted to trade with us. I think the club showed sensible balance by say "ok we will get what we can by drafting the most mature elite players from the draft". This I believe will stand us in very good stead in future. Indeed from all that we read this year's draft elite, they are in fact elite hard heads and stand every chance of developing into A-graders, and in a short space of time. Let's say more Ollie Wines than jack Watts or Luke Molan.. Let's hope so.

The only sign of panic was in the last ten minutes when in my mind stupidly we spent 23 on Frost. Frost is no Bernie Vince. I think we could have done a lot better than that.

Overall though. I suspect we will look back on the 2014 trade period as the foundation of our next premiership......we are starting to see the team that Roosy built. I for one am impressed

Edited October 17, 2014 by Dees2014

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

If a Frost developers into our 10 year regular FB than 23 wouldn't be a stupid pick- we only think that because we expected to get him really cheap, but if he works out its a good trade.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

The only sign of panic was in the last ten minutes when in my mind stupidly we spent 23 on Frost. Frost is no Bernie Vince.

Correct, Bernie would struggle on Travis Cloke.

[Robbie57 2,003]

In my view picks are paper money. You really dont know what you are going to get or the true value of the pick for some time. Sure they are an opportunity to back your guess before other teams but history shows that remains very speculative exercise. Roos knows this when he articulated his general approach to the draft. It appears our approach was to find the best available replacement for Frawley. Our bet is that Frost is developing as a key backman who is not yet as good as Frawley but can fill that role at senior level. If we passed because of some belief that picks are bankable currency then we have learnt very little as a club. The question is not whether he was worth pick 23 but rather does he fill the role we needed to fill this year and we will know the answer over the next season.

[beelzebub 23,239]

In my view picks are paper money. You really dont know what you are going to get or the true value of the pick for some time. Sure they are an opportunity to back your guess before other teams but history shows that remains very speculative exercise. Roos knows this when he articulated his general approach to the draft. It appears our approach was to find the best available replacement for Frawley. Our bet is that Frost is developing as a key backman who is not yet as good as Frawley but can fill that role at senior level. If we passed because of some belief that picks are bankable currency then we have learnt very little as a club. The question is not whether he was worth pick 23 but rather does he fill the role we needed to fill this year and we will know the answer over the next season.

someone gets it

[gsmith12 491]

In my view picks are paper money. You really dont know what you are going to get or the true value of the pick for some time. Sure they are an opportunity to back your guess before other teams but history shows that remains very speculative exercise. Roos knows this when he articulated his general approach to the draft. It appears our approach was to find the best available replacement for Frawley. Our bet is that Frost is developing as a key backman who is not yet as good as Frawley but can fill that role at senior level. If we passed because of some belief that picks are bankable currency then we have learnt very little as a club. The question is not whether he was worth pick 23 but rather does he fill the role we needed to fill this year and we will know the answer over the next season.

Good post and far too much logic for many around here.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I know there was considerable frustration on this site that we did not land some "big fish" over the trade period. Clearly for various reason, particularly the unfortunate Trengove revelation no one wanted to trade with us. I think the club showed sensible balance by say "ok we will get what we can by drafting the most mature elite players from the draft". This I believe will stand us in very good stead in future. Indeed from all that we read this year's draft elite, they are in fact elite hard heads and stand every chance of developing into A-graders, and in a short space of time. Let's say more Ollie Wines than jack Watts or Luke Molan.. Let's hope so.

The only sign of panic was in the last ten minutes when in my mind stupidly we spent 23 on Frost. Frost is no Bernie Vince. I think we could have done a lot better than that.

Overall though. I suspect we will look back on the 2014 trade period as the foundation of our next premiership......we are starting to see the team that Roosy built. I for one am impressed

Dees 2014, are you suggesting that the other clubs took offence that we put Jack T up for trade, & he failed the medical, so the other clubs then wiped us after that?

[wattsup 470]

Said on 7 news GWS came late for Jeremy Howe offered top 10 pick caught us off gaurd and ran out of time

[deewag 22]

We should know what we would take for each player. Top 10 (4,6.7) pick for Howe would be a steal. I guess 23 would have gone with him.

[bing181 9,110]

Said on 7 news GWS came late for Jeremy Howe offered top 10 pick caught us off gaurd and ran out of time

Certainly probably ran out of time to be able to package that pick up with pick 3 to really on trade and do something to get "insert name player here". I don't know that pick 10 as a live draft pick would have been all that interesting given that we already had 2 and 3.

[Dees2014 2,377]

Dees 2014, are you suggesting that the other clubs took offence that we put Jack T up for trade, & he failed the medical, so the other clubs then wiped us after that?

I'm suggesting, and I admit it is no more than informed speculation, that with Trengove tradable, we were trying for a mega trade eg Dangerfield , Beames, who knows? All the rhetoric from the club via leaks was that we were going for something big. It all seemed to stop dead after Trengove's medical, presumably because we did not have the currency to get it done. From there we made a judgement call that maybe the best value was in the draft. Some very good judges seemed to say that the high draft picks this year seemed ready to go a la Ollie Wines rather than Scully, Trengove, Watts, McLean, Sylvia. Need I go on?

It remains to be seen I suppose. The point I was making is that you can give TOO much away in trading and sometimes there is more value in the draft particularly if you have high draft picks.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I'm suggesting, and I admit it is no more than informed speculation, that with Trengove tradable, we were trying for a mega trade eg Dangerfield , Beames, who knows? All the rhetoric from the club via leaks was that we were going for something big. It all seemed to stop dead after Trengove's medical, presumably because we did not have the currency to get it done. From there we made a judgement call that maybe the best value was in the draft. Some very good judges seemed to say that the high draft picks this year seemed ready to go a la Ollie Wines rather than Scully, Trengove, Watts, McLean, Sylvia. Need I go on?

It remains to be seen I suppose. The point I was making is that you can give TOO much away in trading and sometimes there is more value in the draft particularly if you have high draft picks.

not criticising you or your post. just interested in your thoughts.

I agree with what you say, that something was in the pot, but without the added 1st Rnd pick we tripped up. I'm glad we did not use both P-2&3 on one player, although I have come around to doing that for player & a return pick of P-10 would have been alright.

i just hope we can get enough picks/collateral to interest clubs next season to trade with us when we chase some 'A' graders.