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His first issue with Buckley was over Seedsmans haircut which looked like a very lesbian type of boys cut so they called him"les".

When I read that I actually thought Buckley was a fairly humorous type to come up with that one and the ask"are you ok with that Harry?"

Harry wasn't Ok with that .

Harry lives in a PC bubble- not in reality.

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OMG - I hadn't heard that one before. Seriously, he seriously takes himself and life far too seriously. Can't really see him lasting the distance in a team sport going on like that.

It was thrown up on SEN as a WATTS for LUMUMBA trade... Interested to see peoples thoughts...

Watts can hit a target.

He might average 20 a game but how many hit targets, how many do his opponents get, how often does he get beaten.

Over. Rated.

Yeah, Watts has more upside, like smiling lots and giving high fives and hugs to his mates over the member's fence.

Geez, my 15 yr old cat attacks a ball with more ferocity than Jackie. Has the skills and vision to really be something, and had a reasonable to poor year IMO. Makes me scream uncharacteristically vile obscenities over the fence in frustration. I even made BBO blush once, would've messaged the abusive behaviour number, however he can't text yet.

Back on topic, those thinking Lumumba wouldn't add dash and class out of the back line and would improve our list are kidding themselves. He'd be fine in our change rooms, we are not like those black and white bigots down Olympic Park way.

Agreed!! I reckon we could provide a better class of bigotry.

Well, I certainly could.

The fact that Harry takes himself extremely seriously seems to be his major character flaw.

His first issue with Buckley was over Seedsmans haircut which looked like a very lesbian type of boys cut so they called him"les".

When I read that I actually thought Buckley was a fairly humorous type to come up with that one and the ask"are you ok with that Harry?"

Harry wasn't Ok with that .

Harry lives in a PC bubble- not in reality.

Sounds to me like Buckley was baiting him.

As you say, "humorously" - so HL has the option of conceding and being good-natured about dropping his stance, and presumably having his nose good-naturedly rubbed in it (thus giving in to the rubbishing of the point he'd tried to raise), or saying "no" - which could equally be no to not only being ok with sexual harassment (no matter how trivial - it is Buckley who's made it a test case), but also to being so set up by the senior coach. And who would've found this "humorous"? Whoever their resident homophobic blokey blokes might be, I imagine - a locker-roomfull at Collingwood, likely enough?

Not much respect going on in this story that Biffen is telling us. Yobbo monoculture, contributed to by the senior coach.

I think this story says far more that's damaging about Buckley's effect on culture than it does about HL. Isolated and ganged up on, by the boss - this is not a workplace culture that belongs in the 21st Century.

Bag me out, help yourself - at least I don't have to stand here taunted by the laughter. Good on you Heretier for having the guts to stare the p ssweak p ick down.

Collingwood have a history of "culture" issues, it's only 12 months ago that the shot hit the fan when Darren Jolly also managed to get himself offside. On leaving he made the point that there were "a select few that are a bit of a problem", and also commented that some at Collingwood didn't like players speaking out or challenging the status quo.

Not been the same club on or off field since Malthouse left.

The running runour is Bucks wants everyone to be clones of what he was on-field - soulless obsessive-compulsives who run themselves into the ground. If you aren't, you're out.

Pies will be hard to deal with in a trade situation and id keep watts unless we got Lumumba plus another serious young gun. Give them mitch clark for lumamba.

I'd like to get Lumumba and I'd like to trade Watts, but a straight swap isn't on.

Sounds to me like Buckley was baiting him.

As you say, "humorously" - so HL has the option of conceding and being good-natured about dropping his stance, and presumably having his nose good-naturedly rubbed in it (thus giving in to the rubbishing of the point he'd tried to raise), or saying "no" - which could equally be no to not only being ok with sexual harassment (no matter how trivial - it is Buckley who's made it a test case), but also to being so set up by the senior coach. And who would've found this "humorous"? Whoever their resident homophobic blokey blokes might be, I imagine - a locker-roomfull at Collingwood, likely enough?

Not much respect going on in this story that Biffen is telling us. Yobbo monoculture, contributed to by the senior coach.

I think this story says far more that's damaging about Buckley's effect on culture than it does about HL. Isolated and ganged up on, by the boss - this is not a workplace culture that belongs in the 21st Century.

Bag me out, help yourself - at least I don't have to stand here taunted by the laughter. Good on you Heretier for having the guts to stare the p ssweak p ick down.

This was a story from the paper back when Harry last cracked it with Buckley.

Personally thought it very innocuous but Harry took exception.

Probably a lick of truth in it but lets be honest,Footy clubs often are places where people share a joke.

I'd like to get Lumumba and I'd like to trade Watts, but a straight swap isn't on.

They would have to give us Lumumba plus an early draft pick.

I saw a very avant garde play at Lamumbas theatre off Lygon once.

Camp as Christmas.

This was a story from the paper back when Harry last cracked it with Buckley.

Personally thought it very innocuous but Harry took exception.

Probably a lick of truth in it but lets be honest,Footy clubs often are places where people share a joke.

yes, that's true.

still, if one of your blokes raises issues, you can show respect or rubbish him. Maybe Bucks had had enough and broke the rules in frustration. Hard to tell since we weren't there. But, all the same, even though PC can be a pain at times I know, a boss ought to behave the way a boss is expected to, in this day and age. Gotta respect the guys, if you expect to get the best out of them. if you have to address issues, surely you do it in private?

Heretier is more up-to-date than Bucks, that's how I see it. Should he be getting bullied into acting a redneck too?

Stop showing off Biff!!

Stop showing off Biff!!

It was a fine way to spend public money

and it gave some scumbag actors a reason to stay off the streets for the night.

It was all about unfairness or some crapola.

Who cares anyway.

The running runour is Bucks wants everyone to be clones of what he was on-field - soulless obsessive-compulsives who run themselves into the ground. If you aren't, you're out.

Have heard from a Collingwood supporter who knows Harry personally that he is a terrific bloke - and footballer - who is not happy with Bucks rigid regime.

Harry is absolutely committed to being the best player he can be - but struggles with Buckley's determination to build a team of clones. Points out that Dawes and Taylor will know him - and will be encouraging Roos to snap him up.

His run would certainly be an asset

It was a fine way to spend public money

and it gave some scumbag actors a reason to stay off the streets for the night.

It was all about unfairness or some crapola.

Who cares anyway.

Well we honest taxpayers care FU!! Pimps and drug dealers like yourself add millions to the medicare budget. How many of your slags accept eftpos or credit cards? I cant get any FF points with those [censored].

I saw a very avant garde play at Lamumbas theatre off Lygon once.

Camp as Christmas.

Always thought you to be the stereotypical thespian Biff.

(If that word's ok with H)

The point is,we must fund the occasional deviate to display some kind of cultural awareness or else half the ABC will need to go back to selling tricks.

I had the unfortunate experience of living next to Lumumba early this year. He is not the guy everyone makes him out to be. He frequently woke my family (and everyone else in the apartment block) with aggressive and demeaning abuse of his girlfriend. What made it worst was that this often happened outside the window of my boys bedroom (they are 1 and 3). We were very conflicted and what we should do, we were going to call the police once, but it settled down; another time I went outside (to shut the gate) hoping he would notice that people were always around listening/watching. Not sure how anyone can make a stand about some social issues while being a perpetrator of another.

Not a pretty account.

Probably should've called the cops.

The running runour is Bucks wants everyone to be clones of what he was on-field - soulless obsessive-compulsives who run themselves into the ground. If you aren't, you're out.

So thats why Pendlebury was [censored] off that they're all front running "cheats"

Have dealt with him in an official capacity and can concur he is a very unlikeable person.

My work mate who knows nothing about football asked a very innocent question "I believe you play football?".

He replied in an extremely smarmy manner "thats ONE of the things I do! "

Cut it out....seriously.

Have dealt with him in an official capacity and can concur he is a very unlikeable person.

My work mate who knows nothing about football asked a very innocent question "I believe you play football?".

He replied in an extremely smarmy manner "thats ONE of the things I do! "

Cut it out....seriously.

those that protestesth too much are usually projecting their own crap onto others.

I had the unfortunate experience of living next to Lumumba early this year. He is not the guy everyone makes him out to be. He frequently woke my family (and everyone else in the apartment block) with aggressive and demeaning abuse of his girlfriend. What made it worst was that this often happened outside the window of my boys bedroom (they are 1 and 3). We were very conflicted and what we should do, we were going to call the police once, but it settled down; another time I went outside (to shut the gate) hoping he would notice that people were always around listening/watching. Not sure how anyone can make a stand about some social issues while being a perpetrator of another.

This apartment wasn't off st Kilda road was it?

I really don't like the idea of taking this guy on, most of the posts suggest good reasons not to.

Our club doesn't need that stuff.

I will be very disappointed if he becomes a demon.

There are plenty of players id be happy to see in the red and blue, target them instead roosy!