I cannot see Roos giving up a first round pick or watering down a potential first round pick for him, if he wants to come to the Dees I am sure the two clubs will find a way to accommodate him. He has done well for the swans, time for the swans to do well by him.

Pick 4 for Mitchell and malceski

Pick 4 for Mitchell and malceski

Unless I'm mistaken - we do not have to offer the swans anything for malceski as he is a free agent.

It would water down our compo

So St. Kilda can take him?

Doubt he'd do that anyway. I'm sure we wouldn't be the only club interested, he'd just choose one of our rivals who didn't try to make him jump through hoops to get there.

Decide whether we want him, decide what price we will pay, and pay it. Trying to [censored] around with these things rarely produce good results.

How is that making him jump through hoops?

Pick 4 for Mitchell and malceski

Mitchell is off to Carlton.

You would assume the club would do their due diligence before signing him, but this is his third year in row injury free. If we got him for the right price then I can't see any reason why a rational Melbourne fan would say no to his signing.

I agree, W, but why would he come? It doesn't appear logical. Would we offer him a three year deal? Even then, he might be able to get that at Sydney if he plays it year by year. They have a side that will play deep in the finals for the rest of his career span. Okay, so money can talk, but I don't think we'd be offering enough to make it worth his while. Close to no chance he'd entertain this, IMO.

Mitchell is off to Carlton.

If Mitchell is open for trade, then we'll have a better pick than Carlton.

Players don't always get to their desired destination.

Sydney would be eager for Petracca or Brayshaw I'd imagine.

Mitchell is off to Carlton.

Where did you hear this? Can't see him getting there.

Where did you hear this? Can't see him getting there.

I read this the other day. Either news.com or the age.

Has a family connection to Carlton. His dad played 10 games with them or something similar.

Had a quote from his dad saying he was happy in Sydney.

Wasn't much meat to the article. Mostly speculation.

I read this the other day. Either news.com or the age.

Has a family connection to Carlton. His dad played 10 games with them or something similar.

Had a quote from his dad saying he was happy in Sydney.

Wasn't much meat to the article. Mostly speculation.

His Dad played 3 years at Carlton and was involved with Blues/Bullants for more than 10 years after his playing career finished. Was a gun player at Sydney too his old man!

Malceski is in career best form. I suspect the Swans will find a way to accomodate his requirements

Mitchell is off to Carlton.

He's contracted so he doesn't leave via trade unless Sydney okay it, I reckon pick 4 is a fair bit better than anything the blues could/would offer for him, the fact that he and Malceski would provide salary cap relief for them would help them a lot,

Sydney don't want anything earlier than a late first round pick because they'll be burning it on their guaranteed Academy selection, a player which (if not for the draft concessions given to Sydney) would otherwise go around pick 5. They're getting away with murder on that one, not dissimilar to if we manage to land Stretch with a third rounder.

I read this the other day. Either news.com or the age.

Has a family connection to Carlton. His dad played 10 games with them or something similar.

Had a quote from his dad saying he was happy in Sydney.

Wasn't much meat to the article. Mostly speculation.

Thanks, mate. Yeah, I knew his Dad had played for Carlton, but I think we hold the aces in terms of what we can offer.

Malceski is a great player, there's no doubt about that but this would be a massive risk for us to take.

Left Field is right - he's too old to undergo further surgery if he blows his knee again, so if we were to consider picking him up I'd be hoping an extremely thorough medical examination would be on the cards, to ensure his knee hasn't begun to deteriorate again.[/quote

If we get some good games out of him before he 'blows his knee' then all is not lost. Presuming the selectors are astute in our selection of rookies, we may well compensate more than adequately as we did this year with Jetta.

My (somewhat limited) understanding of LARS is that it is regarded as a relatively short term quick fix, which is why it is usually reserved for "more senior" players and not say an under 25.

I also understand that knee ligaments, LARS or not, don't 'deteriorate' as such at least in a measurable way, but just go BANG when the time comes.

So we wouldn't want to spend the farm on him.

Edited July 22, 201411 yr by monoccular

Mitchell is off to Carlton.

Likely, and he's not worth pick 4.

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"Denham & Lace says..."

Only complete dribble oozes from this things orifice so it's pretty likely that this is wrong.

Why would he leave a team in the position the Swans are in...would you leave a team in premiership contention to come to a team at the bottom of the ladder???

Not for mine. How many ACL's? 3? How many Lars? 2?

Latest Lars has held up for a couple of seasons. At 29, next knee injury will be the end.

Would be madness.

I wouldn't do anything to water down any compo we may get if chippa goes.

Sydney don't want anything earlier than a late first round pick because they'll be burning it on their guaranteed Academy selection, a player which (if not for the draft concessions given to Sydney) would otherwise go around pick 5. They're getting away with murder on that one, not dissimilar to if we manage to land Stretch with a third rounder.

If they trade for an early pick they wouldn't have to use it on an academy selection, it would just be their first regular pick surely, like with father-son.

Likely, and he's not worth pick 4.

If Toumpas is worth pick 4 (that's his draft number) then Mitchell is worth pick 4.

So is trading a late pick for Malceski the only way around diluting a compensation pick? Do delisted free agents effect compensation picks?

So is trading a late pick for Malceski the only way around diluting a compensation pick? Do delisted free agents effect compensation picks?

There are a few options (ordered by likelihood) but all depend on him agreeing to come obviously;

1. FA acquisition - this will dilute our compensation should Frawley leave. Should he stay - this is the best option.

2. Trade a late pick - this is the option to go for if Frawley leaves. It will not affect the compensation.

3. PSD - If Malceski is willing and we think that others below won't take him - this will work but requires a longer wait.

4. DFA - If Malceski is delisted for some strange reason. Maybe he requests it. I cannot see it happening, but it will not affect the compensation for Frawley. FA and DFA are seperate yet parallel constructs in the AFL.

5. Nat Draft - this will not happen.

In the first 15 minutes tonight,he's kicked one out on the full and one out of bounds!!!

We have Jack Grimes for that,let's save some coin

Better off judging him based on the season as a whole which he is seriously in considerations for all Australian rather than a couple of shanks