Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

Sunday's (magnificent) scoreline was striking in its consistency with our other wins so I thought I'd update a post from a couple of weeks back...

In the three four games we have won our opponents have kicked an aggregate of 25 goals 49 behinds 35 goals 66 behinds while we have kicked an aggregate 37 goals 20 behinds 49 goals 26 in those wins.

It's 65% accuracy on our part against 34.5% accuracy on the opposition over the four games.

Their inaccuracy has left the door open for us, just as our 6.15 did for the Saints.

We are competitive and if the opposition is a little 'off' we can take them.

But relying on opposition inaccuracy for a win does not shape us as challengers to the top of the ladder sides, even though on any given day we are some sort of faint chance. And that's it this week: a faint moderate chance.

I am looking forward to the game when we totally dominate an opponent in every aspect of the game. We might have to wait until Hogan debuts though.

  • Like 1

Posted

The opposition have kicked more goals than behinds in just three games of thirteen this year, including the first two. How did we get so lucky?

pressure?

  • Like 3
Posted

The opposition have kicked more goals than behinds in just three games of thirteen this year, including the first two. How did we get so lucky?

Its not a coincidence. Now Essendon did miss some gimme's but I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago and it still holds true. Taking the Eagles game out of the equation, there hasn't been too many easy hit up leads into our defensive 50. Roos has concentrated on two defensive aspects - firstly - our mids are pressuring the opposition ball carriers going into their forward line so there is not a great deal of unpressured entries. Secondly - we are now leaving very little space inside the corridor. I know that modern football does hug the boundary but so many opposition shots are coming in from 45 degrees or worse. Roos has mentioned that our team is making opposition take shots from difficult positions.

  • Like 3
Posted

Spot on. Part of Roos defensive setups is the only positions we allow the opposition to mark inside their forward 50 are at awkward 45 degree angles, leading to inaccurate kicking. Very rarely this year have we gifted teams a set shot for goal directly in front. Basically comes down to flooding the center of their forward line with defenders prepared to spoil and disallow any clean marks.

The other game we should've won, against the Bulldogs, was only a loss because they got 4 or 5 freakish goals from tough angles. Every other team has struggled horribly.

  • Like 1

Posted

Our defensive pressure is key here. From the very beginning of his tenure, that is what Roos said he would concentrate on in his first year. But I have to say I get tired of the scribes and commentators who keep saying that if ​they kicked straight the game would have been over a half time. The inescapable fact is that if a goal is kicked, the ball goes back to the centre for a bounce. A brand new play ensues and the circumstances become markedly different. Time spent in the forward 50 is certainly reflective of dominant possession, but to suggest it automatically should translate to the scoreboard is to ignore reality, that once a goal is kicked a different centre bounce set-up comes into play.

  • Like 3
Posted

There is too much consistency inaccurate kicking against us. I think it is planning.

Looking at MFC Website ,the 1% category which indicates pressure (to me) showed that it was led by the 6 defenders.

May be a reason for their kicking.

Good pressure leads to perceived pressure.

Posted

the pressure and forcing rushed shots on goal definitely contributes to opposition high number of points.


Posted

We dont get it in F50 enough to be inaccurate.

Posted

I just keep thiking if only we could have been playing like this (current few weeks form) from the begining of the season.

I have no doubt we would have knocked off St Kilda, and possible GWS. West Coast i feel would have knocked us off.

Either way that could have put us 6 and 6.

I know its silly to think of the what ifs but im liking the improvement of our team and astually looking forward to games now with more then just "i hope we win" attitude..

  • Like 1
Posted

I just keep thiking if only we could have been playing like this (current few weeks form) from the begining of the season.

The guru, Roos, did say that we should be judged after 7 rounds.

Damn, that boy is smart.

Posted

I just keep thiking if only we could have been playing like this (current few weeks form) from the begining of the season.

I have no doubt we would have knocked off St Kilda, and possible GWS. West Coast i feel would have knocked us off.

Either way that could have put us 6 and 6.

I know its silly to think of the what ifs but im liking the improvement of our team and astually looking forward to games now with more then just "i hope we win" attitude..

The Bulldogs was won that got away, too. We were right in that despite a leaky defence. Anyway, we get our chance in a couple of weeks to show them how it should have gone.

Posted

The Bulldogs was won that got away, too. We were right in that despite a leaky defence. Anyway, we get our chance in a couple of weeks to show them how it should have gone.

Bulldogs are good at Etihad. We aren't.

Posted

Hard to kick straight when you are coming down from your last hit of peptides and can see 5 sets of goal posts

Classic essendope

Posted

So what I thought anecdotally is written up in the age.

We are 5th worse in the comp for giving up inside 50's

We are the hardest to score against once inside our 50

We have given up the fewest goals of any side from within 15 metres

Limited opponent scoring accuracy to 53.8% inside the corridor - lowest in the AFL

Fifth best defense in the AFL

We are also forcing teams to kick from outside 50 - conceding 10 goals 27 points !

Roos said in the article "we put them in tough spots to score".

Thats half of it - we clog up the defense and our mids are working hard to pressure defensively.

It is no accident that teams are kicking inaccurately against us.

Posted

Sundays game. Richmond end. Melbourne 8 goals 0 points. City End 4 goals 6 points.

I was sitting down the Ponsford end and noticed the wind seemed tricky changing from west to south.

I can't remember the bummers but there kicking was bad all over the ground.

I was just amazed that we kicked 8 straight down the Richmond end. I can't remember any team doing that.


Posted (edited)

I think a lot of it is that Roos is insisting that we actually put our eyes down and try to hit a target. The plan entering the forward fifty from 2012 onwards was hug the boundary line and then try to bomb the ball on to Mitch Clark's head. If he failed to take a mark then one of our smalls was supposed to clean it up.

Sometimes you do need to kick to a pack if there is absolutely nothing on offer but we seem to be trying to kick to a leading forward more often than not these days.

Edited by Colin B. Flaubert

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...