GOODBYE MR. CHIP FRAWLEY

[binman 39,469]

hope not

Do you know what, I %100 agree.

Don't get me wrong we will miss Frawley as even though i reckon he is overrated as someone pointed out on DL he is a KPP with 100 plus games and 8 seasons under his belt and such players are not easily replaced. But a good team culture is a bunch of players invested in the same goal. As PJ has repeatedley said he knows our offer and he one can only assume he doesn't want to accept it. Go then.

As for Clark, unlike some i don't reckon he owes us anything any more than we owe a player like Clisby who we have sacked. If say we offered him only a rookie spot and a lowish salary (which is all we should offer him given his baggage) and he can get a much better deal elsewhere then i have no problems him taking the better deal. Who wouldn't take the better deal?

But - and it is a big but - he has handled this appallingly and the impression he has bailed on us is an impression entirely of his and his dimwit of manager's making. I'm of the view that mental health issues should be treated like any other disease. It shouldn't be shameful or hidden away but nor should it accord sufferers any different treatment or expectation than those suffering from other injuries or diseases. You can't have your cake and eat it too. To allow the impression (which he has by not being open and disabusing people of the notion) to develop that he he might go to another club to get a fresh start help him address his mental health issues is, in my view, disingenuous and does the cause of promoting more tolerant view to mental health issues no good at all. Why not say it is about money or greater chance of success - what's wrong with that? Plus the blind stupidity of thinking that he wouldn't cop it from fans and the media (assuming that's what he and his bonehead manager are thinking) and that such derision might not be deleterious to his mental health is mind boggling.

In any case, like Frawley, if he is not part of the solution he is part of the problem and i'd prefer he announce his intentions and get on his bike. See ya MC.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Freo have apparently put forth 7 years at $4m, according to Purple.

[camillo 106]

GAWN !

[Deetective Sgt. Taggert 380]

When does the actual FA period begin and end?

[beelzebub 22,706]

When does the actual FA period begin and end?

officially or unofficially ?

Oct 3

[BIG JIM 508]

Sheehan and Wallace just said on tac cup that frawley compo could be around pick 10 because they think pick 3 could be to high. Also Sheehan is on the board who make the call. Not looking good

[TheoX 1,218]

Absolute BS. They can't change the formula, ridiculous. It's band 1. Band 1 is fair. They freaking said compo isn't meant to reflect the value of the player and now they want to backtrack? F***ers.

Edited September 21, 2014 by TheoX

[Jara 1,153]

Sheehan and Wallace just said on tac cup that frawley compo could be around pick 10 because they think pick 3 could be to high. Also Sheehan is on the board who make the call. Not looking good

I thought the rule said you had to get the pick immediately after your regular pick? (This is crucial. Adequate Compensation is the only thing that stops FA from being a completely outrageous rape of the weak clubs by the strong)

[SaberFang 7,141]

Might be buttering up rival clubs to soften the blow of giving us pick 3 as a PP.

[Lucifers Hero 37,520]

Do we know who is on the panel that makes the recommendation to the Commission and what the steps in the process are.

Mark Evans and Sheahan are two names mentioned so far?

[DemonOX 8,559]

Might be buttering up rival clubs to soften the blow of giving us pick 3 as a PP.

or we will get screwed over by the AFL which is unusual !!!!!!

[Demanding Success 298]

Sheahan didn't say it. Wallace did. Sheehan tried to explain what could happen. He is on the panel. He said there is a really complex formula which is worked out and then put to the panel to see if it looks fair. Wallace said it and used buddy to say frawley wasn't worth more than him. He was talking from what he thinks is fair instead of looking at the figures.

[BIG JIM 508]

I thought the rule said you had to get the pick immediately after your regular pick? (This is crucial. Adequate Compensation is the only thing that stops FA from being a completely outrageous rape of the weak clubs by the strong)

thats what I thought but Sheehan said if there not comfortable with the formula they can recommend to the commission what the see as fair. Looks like there starting there campaign to screw us again.

[JV7 2,339]

Sheahan didn't say it. Wallace did. Sheehan tried to explain what could happen. He is on the panel. He said there is a really complex formula which is worked out and then put to the panel to see if it looks fair. Wallace said it and used buddy to say frawley wasn't worth more than him. He was talking from what he thinks is fair instead of looking at the figures.

See this is where people get it wrong in this case Wallace.. It has nothing to do with who's the better player out of franklin and Frawley, obviously franklins worth more than pick 19 or whatever it was and better player than Frawley but the impact of Frawley leaving us compared to buddy leaving hawthorn is much greater, hawks have made another grand final without buddy. I'd argue that us losing Frawley is a lot greater lose then hawthorn losing buddy. There's more too it the who's the better player...

Edited September 21, 2014 by JV7

[SaberFang 7,141]

Seems at odds with what the club have been told privately they're expected to receive, based on various factors.

If Roos said he expects picks 3 the other week it's for good reason.

[sue 8,594]

I guess there is some interesting points in discussing the compensation, but we all know that at bottom the AFL will just do what it likes regardless of any logic, consistency or fairness.

[FarNorthernD 5,848]

If Chip went to play with his simple, honest, hard working country friends in Geelong for what amounted to tier two compo for us but knocked back a larger tier one contract from Freo would the powers make allowances for the more lucrative but rejected contract?

[Dockett 32 1,213]

The player movement rules should be crystal clear, unambiguous and transparent. How's the AFL stacking up so far?

[Tough Kent 2,058]

The player movement rules should be crystal clear, unambiguous and transparent. How's the AFL stacking up so far?

I would rate them somewhere between a .5 to a 4 out of 10. Clear enough?

[SaberFang 7,141]

They're idiots if they decided to water down our compensation because they decide Chip "isn't that good a player".

What they think of his skills as a player is bloody irrelevant. There's a formula, and that's related to the contract size and length. Nothing else is relevant. If another club wanted to take Dan Nicholson and put him on a 9 year, $10m contract, I'd expect the same compensation.

If they start cherry picking compensation based on their own subjective opinions of what a player is worth, the league is officially as corrupt as it gets.

[Redleg 38,437]

There is a formula. Age and amount and length of contract are the criteria. On that basis Chip is band one, end of story. If not band one, take it to Court.

[Dockett 32 1,213]

I reckon that covers it Red.

[rpfc 27,673]

We should take them to court if we don't get draft assistance on Monday, get the AFL to reveal to a Judge their secret formula, if it should have been applied in the last 2 years, and why it wasn't applied.

[Demoneyes 562]

Im pretty devo about Chip leaving. I was a backman in my Jouiner days so his one of my all time fav player.

If I see him around Perth I would still walk up to him with my demon jumper and get him to sign it, he played more then 100 games for us so his still a demon in my eyes.

So were you a junior joiner?

I do a lot of work with Jarred Rivers brother here in Adelaide. Just bumped into him after not seeing him for a while n although we already know this he confirmed its a done deal. Frawley to Geelong, he mentioned that Jarred has known since the middle of the year.

As others have said. Can't be a confirmed done deal until the ink is dry! But one thing certain is that he aint playing at our club next year!

Wonder if the appointment of Goodwin will affect the thinking of Frawley and Clark ?

With absolute certainty...no!

[ILLDieADemon 804]

So were you a junior joiner?

So are you an English teacher?

If you have nothing better to do then pick spelling errors on this website then you must have a pretty sad life.