GOODBYE MR. CHIP FRAWLEY

[nutbean 8,838]

If true that would be the final great performance of a club leader.

Redleg - I expect better - if you can suffer through the footy show have a look at exactly what Barrett actually said.

[Redleg 41,405]

Redleg - I expect better - if you can suffer through the footy show have a look at exactly what Barrett actually said.

You have lost me, I don't follow what you mean.

I replied to a post that suggested, that if a reporter was correct, that Chip might not attend the B and F.

I said " IF TRUE" etc. What is wrong with that?

[nutbean 8,838]

You have lost me, I don't follow what you mean.

I replied to a post that suggested, that if a reporter was correct, that Chip might not attend the B and F.

I said " IF TRUE" etc. What is wrong with that?

All good ( and a bit of tongue in cheek) - Just the misreporting on here that has grown legs. the original story that if Frawley goes he wont be at the B&F ( which is standard fare for players who trade out before the B&F) to Frawley is refusing to go. I have heard the story in two places and its a bit like "we arent say he is going we are just saying that we dont expect to see him at the B&F". Just thought this was demonland at its best.

[jackaub 1,402]

Who really cares what happens to Frawley Yaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrnn!

He will be replaced and forgotton next year if he goes so why all the comment

[Cards13 9,117]

Lake gone off injured again I notice....

[dees189227 12,395]

damo never said he refused to got to the best and fairest, but if on monday or tuesday he says he is going then he would probably feel uncomfortable going.

[beelzebub 23,382]

I wondwr whose B&F he might be going to ?

[P-man 13,366]

This is just a really unfortunate way for things to end.

Got drafted at precisely the wrong time and has gone through 8 years of crap but still fronted up every week and given his best, until this year.

He's been a great servant, but it's an unfortunate ending.

[dazzledavey36 55,314]

Who really cares what happens to Frawley Yaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrnn!

He will be replaced and forgotton next year if he goes so why all the comment

And who is going to replace him?

[SaberFang 7,151]

If losing one defender, who played forward most of the year, means we can beef up our midfield I'm good with that.

We played great defensive footy for at least ten rounds without Frawley there.

[What 18,810]

And who is going to replace him?

backline didn't miss a beat without him

[the grint 71]

Georgiou and Oscar Mac

[Whispering_Jack 30,575]

Sounds very much like Goodbye Mr. Chip ~ Geelong set to offer five-year contract to James Frawley, clubs circling GWS defender Jono O’Rourke

[Elwood 3184 1,337]

If true that would be the final great performance of a club leader.

He won't be collecting anything anyway.

[Redleg 41,405]

Sounds very much like Goodbye Mr. Chip ~ Geelong set to offer five-year contract to James Frawley, clubs circling GWS defender Jono O’Rourke

What crap. Cats " WILL" talk to "HIM" after the season is over. Oh, of course, they have been talking to his manager up till now.

[TheoX 1,222]

Yep, if we did that to a Cats player we'd be investigated, fined and stripped of picks.

[Redleg 41,405]

Also interesting that in today's article, the figure to be offered by the Cats is $500k per year, but it says that Hawks, Suns and Dockers are also interested but that they wouldn't t be interested at over $700k per year.

The question then is if they would pay up to $700k per year, why would he go to the Cats for only $500k per year? That is $1m less over 5 years.

I think his contract will be for more than $500k per year. He was asking for $800k a short while ago. Also I don't think his recent form will have anything to do with his new contract.

[beelzebub 23,382]

Sounds very much like Goodbye Mr. Chip ~ Geelong set to offer five-year contract to James Frawley, clubs circling GWS defender Jono O’Rourke

still sounds similar to my early mail , Cats; 2-2.5 over 4 with a kicker to 5y..conditions apply. Ages ago now so we'll see what transpires. He's % 99.99 gone though. Such is life

[NowWeKnow 130]

I don't think anyone reasonably expects Chip will stay anymore. So surely the only thing we need to know now is what deal will qualify us for pick 3. If anyone reliably has that info could you please let us know so we all have something to barrack for in all this.

There's this from the AFL website:

COMPENSATION

A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL.

The compensation formula produces a points rating for players based on:

1. The new contract of the free agent;
2. The age of the free agent.

Draft picks are allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period.

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

• 1st round
• end of 1st round
• 2nd round
• end of 2nd round
• 3rd round

In applying the formula, an expert committee reviews the formula outcomes. The committee has the power to recommend alternative outcomes to GM – Football Operations where the formula produces a materially anomalous result.

And this from The Age a couple of years ago:

CLUBS HAVE BEEN WARNED COMPENSATION IS:

* Not designed to fully compensate a club for the loss of a player

* Designed to reflect the relative values of various players to one another

* Not designed to make concession for the ladder position of a club losing a player, but standardise compensation across five categories of picks.

In typical AFL fashion it appears that there is enough wriggle room in all this that they can make happen whatever they want to make happen.

[dees189227 12,395]

seriously who could blame chip for leaving. he has had so many coaches for the years and no success. If hawthorn or geelong came to you of course you'd leave. You know next year you will be playing finals. This is why our club has to strat getting better on field.

But if he went ot a gold coast or gws then I would be more disappointed because then its more about the money probably.

Edited August 30, 2014 by dees189227

[chook fowler 19,519]

Can't blame him for leaving. Will blame him for his lack of engagement, effort and leadership when the team desperately needs their senior players to set an example. Very ordinary attitude.

[Dockett 32 1,239]

Why is the compensation not designed to fully compensate a club for the loss of a key player?

How is this a fair system?

[Redleg 41,405]

Why is the compensation not designed to fully compensate a club for the loss of a key player?

How is this a fair system?

It isn't. It's the AFL.

[Sir Why You Little 37,120]

Why is the compensation not designed to fully compensate a club for the loss of a key player?

How is this a fair system?

It has been designed by the players to allow easy movement.

It was never meant to be "fair"

We just have to get better at luring the players we want.

[Dockett 32 1,239]

I agree with your third point but the system needs work. An unfair and manipulative system is discriminatory in my view.