We've all hoped and been wrong on picking the turning point in the downswing of our footy club.

So I thought I'd poll where we reasonably think the upswing will become evident. Not talking about storming into the 8, just solid performances and indications we can compete regularly?

When we've relocated to Beijing, becoming the first team to play out of China.

When you can [censored] the pebble from my hand, grasshopper.

Edit - OMG ! look at the word it censored ! It says a lot about the people who set up the filter !!! this has made my day !!

Roos said pre-season dont judge as a team until round 5 or 6. I will stick with that even though I think we have gone backwards since the season began

Roos said pre-season dont judge as a team until round 5 or 6. I will stick with that even though I think we have gone backwards since the season began

Saints round 1 & Meth Coast round 2 how can you judge that

When we've relocated to Beijing, becoming the first team to play out of China.

Chinese Whispers...

Roos said pre-season dont judge as a team until round 5 or 6. I will stick with that even though I think we have gone backwards since the season began

...and more Chinese whispers. He was talking about the fans being able to see the game plan, nothing about judging the team.

If you want to see a tide turning go to the beach, ours is no chance until we can resolve injury issues and address mental scars.

This the second entertaining thread put up this week.

Glad someone still has their sense of humour.

The previous one got closed down.

Hope you have better luck PaulRB

at about 6.50 tonight.

If you want to see a tide turning go to the beach, ours is no chance until we can resolve injury issues and address mental scars.

Damn, I was reading down, to put something similar, I just wish people would suck it up, it's footy, nobody dies if we lose, we'll get there eventually

You begin to understand why Roos initially was so reluctant to get back on board the Reality Bus, it is not the footy, it is the rest of the media driven rubbish to have to put up with day to day

I now believe never,

That way I will be pleasantly suprised rather than havng my hopes shattered leaving. Its diffcult drinking from a stubby lying in the foetal position

I think the back have of this year we will be a much better team.

Damn, I was reading down, to put something similar, I just wish people would suck it up, it's footy, nobody dies if we lose, we'll get there eventually

You begin to understand why Roos initially was so reluctant to get back on board the Reality Bus, it is not the footy, it is the rest of the media driven rubbish to have to put up with day to day

it's the eventually bit that has us worried satyr

it's the eventually bit that has us worried satyr

I know but I have faith in Roos and his team, think how far back surprised him as well, think it may even take till next season and another clear out

My lovely lady told me it was amusing to watch me sink further and further into my seat on Sunday, but after a walk home through pleasant East Melbourne and a fine wine I was ok

If you want to see a tide turning go to the beach, ours is no chance until we can resolve injury issues and address mental scars.

Exactly, we need a break from injuries, pardon the pun, and the sooner we get key personnel back on the park the sooner confidence will kick in and you will see a competitive Demon side.

I know but I have faith in Roos and his team, think how far back surprised him as well, think it may even take till next season and another clear out

My lovely lady told me it was amusing to watch me sink further and further into my seat on Sunday, but after a walk home through pleasant East Melbourne and a fine wine I was ok

A successful footy team would be nice, but anyone with a lovely lady and a fine wine is doing OK.

I dont think there will be a massive improvement from what we saw in the initial NAB rounds. However saying that,those games were a massive improvement on what we saw last year. With the return of some tall forwards, the return of Garland, some assistance to Jake (Jamar/Gawn) and the grunt of Viney I believe we will all be pleasanatly surprised. The players have to not only learn an entirely new game plan but we also have a mid field who have had two games together. Most of us know that putting it together on the training track is easy and much more difficult to do it under pressure on game day. We are playing a compromised game plan caused by having a compromised playing list. Improvement will come slowly and anyone who expected otherwise this year was sadly out of step with reality.

Like Saty I have every faith in Roos and to hear him admit that he was part of the debacle on Sunday because he coached badly was music to my ears. When was the last time if ever did we hear Neeld ever take responsibility for anything that happened last year. Roos now has to ensure the players play to his plan but more importantly he has to deal with the mental issues that the players have been left with from the last couple of years. If anyone can do all of this it is Roosy and his crack team of coaches. I don't ever believe that the team is as bad as they looked on Sunday but as soon as WC had kicked a couple of goals and we were 0.0, their heads went down - with a big sign going up - here we go again. To me this is the biggest hurdle that Roosy has to fix. There were no signs of fumbling against Saints like what was displayed on Sunday. They do have the skills but I am not sure of the belief in themselves.

I think the tide will turn in 2016.

Roos will get away from moneyball/stop gap and the focus will be on youth and development.

So far Roos has found the right balance, adding Cross, Vince - whilst also maximising pick 2 to get in Salem and Tyson.

GWS might buy into a Boyd or Patton trade - given how strong the KP's are this year.

It fits in with the trend of GWS buying themselves time until their side is settled.

GWS are managing their list well, it makes no sense to have 3 potential superstar KP's in at the one time, while other sides push their price up.

They should trade Boyd or Patton for a younger KP, that way they can manage their list/cap better and give themselves a better chances of retain their players in the long term. Also, front loading contracts like GWS do, makes more sense to front load 2 - then another one 2 years later, instead of 3 at once and pay overs.

I thought the messiah had already made it to Melbourne.

So if the Seas are now parted, wont we see the tide turn.?

When you can [censored] the pebble from my hand, grasshopper.

Edit - OMG ! look at the word it censored ! It says a lot about the people who set up the filter !!! this has made my day !!

We think of everything. Pretty thorough, huh?

I don't think it takes that much to be honest (to set it up), just a brain storm and hey presto.

On topic. Hopefully there will be light at the end of the tunnel soon. Just hope it's not another train.

when we get a tall forward line and have someone to kick the football to.

I think we'll start to get our main players back in by Rnd 6, & it will take another 5 or so weeks to gel the team & gamestyle into strong form.

we'll finish bottom 4 this year.

It's encouraging that 37 of 44 still believe that an upswing is in the works... if still a while off.

When you can [censored] the pebble from my hand, grasshopper.

Edit - OMG ! look at the word it censored ! It says a lot about the people who set up the filter !!! this has made my day !!

This site is censored way to much.....talk about people from the nanny state

It's encouraging that 37 of 44 still believe that an upswing is in the works... if still a while off.

Not sure you draw that conclusion PaulRB as your Poll is structured to get that result.

You give seven alternatives and six assume there is going to be a turn.

But anyway it is a bit of fun and I have enjoyed a chance to discuss a matter concerning the MFC that is little hearted and entertaining.

You have also set a record no one has asked for the thread to be closed.

Good work.