I notice we've had 19 inside 50s, only two fewer than WC. Is our lack of forwards the main issue here?

Those stats might be misleading. We get the ball inside 50 then handball it out, then back in, then we drop a mark, then we kick it back around the 50 metre arc and then we turn it over and West Coast kick a goal.

If Bruce fkn McAvaney talks about the fkn draft again.....I'll....I'll....tweet the [censored]!

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I notice we've had 19 inside 50s, only two fewer than WC. Is our lack of forwards the main issue here?

No, we are bombing it in anyway.

The inside 50's in a Dees game, they mean very little.

We've bombed it in ever since Moloney was playing - he was the king of it.

Hopefully when Toumpas develops and we can afford to play Watts in the middle, then we'll have clean disposal into the forward line.

I'm getting the proper s51ts at Frawely.

James "jog jog" Frawley.

Goes fine once it is near him, but is kind of wafting around a lot, watching the ball of over hiss head, then across the other way. Should be involved in a lot more moments.

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Spencer is up against it. But Jamar wouldn't be much of an improvement and Gawn is unproven.

Our ruck stocks aren't great. Grundy was a big miss for us. That is where Neeld has hurt us.

We paid overs for the Dawes trade and we will continue to pay for that.

Spencer was ok last week. Tap outs only. He doesn't seem to be able to mark, be a target as a big man should. Haven't seen him actually run. Didn't know about the Grundy one? Dawes and Gillies were mistakes. Dawes has lifetime calf issues. Not all lost. Hogan back will help. Any target will help. I think Pederson gets a game cos he eats his weetbix.

1 goal at halftime on the MCG in the first home game of the season

Embarrassing, just like every other season

Just ordered another recycling bin from Darebin City Council.

I getting the proper s51ts at Frawely.

James "jog jog" Frawley.

I did notice that early in the first quarter!

Just ordered another recycling bin from Darebin City Council.

Oh. Nice. Got room for a big telly?

Hopefully they can drag something out of the second half... West Coast haven't even got out of second gear...Smh...

Just ordered another recycling bin from Darebin City Council.

Good idea that.

If Dees can keep the margin under 10 goals then it's a win. Blow out to 100 points a disaster.

What does Dave Mission do at work exactly?

On top of all the injuries he manages pathetically, we aren't anywhere near as fit as other sides like usual

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Im sad the pre-season is over.

off topic! Really sad news today ND...Wish him all the very best. Anythings possible.

What does Dave Mission do at work exactly?

On top of all the injuries he manages pathetically, we aren't anywhere near as fit as other sides like usual

Good question...

They need a "mercy" rule; so they can just stop games like this now.

One mark between Fitzpatrick, Spencer, Pederson and Howe in a half of footy.

Wtf would frawley want to stay???

You don't become a good team over nite!

You don't stop being a crap team over nite!

We can't sack any more coaches or footy dpt people !

This is a 5+ yr plan

Edited March 30, 201411 yr by Hogan2014

What does Dave Mission do at work exactly?

On top of all the injuries he manages pathetically, we aren't anywhere near as fit as other sides like usual

Fitness isn't the issue. Speed and size are. We are clearly undermanned in both departments. Roos will target both areas next year.

We need GWS concessions this year to ever be a chance to get off the bottom.

a mini draft type consession would help... But we need Roos to extend his contract... Two preseasons isn't enough...

Melbourne are short of goal hungry players. We seem to eager to give it off. Types like Jurrah, Fev..Hope Hulk Hogan is goal hungry!

The players are having a dip but they still do not spread and our skill level is below AFL standard.

With all the high draft picks used in the last 7 years it is the skills i cannot abide.

This club is right on the edge no matter what PJ or Roos does.

The players have to take responsibility for their skills

Can't kick, can't handball.

We are fuckin [censored]!!!

Bail is a [censored].

We are either scared to stuff it up or just not smart and therefore too slow to make decisions. When we don't honour leads around the ground everyone stops running and stays putting their hand in the air saying "just kick it to me here".

No idea where our preseason confidence has gone.

Looking optimistically, this is where I believe leading teams style group talking and debriefing could help change the culture. The change needs to come from the players.

I think they are working hard enough off field but need to get it together above the shoulders on match days.