We have a lot of cap space to fill now that Clark is gone.

Not only keeping Frawley will fill it.

We need to chase FAs, or trades with big salaries to entice better players.

so we lose moloney to FA, rivers to FA, sylvia to FA and now we will probably lose Frawley. Wow each year we just see someone walk out. Next year Nathan Jones is out of contract, if he walks which I doubt he would I think I will just give up.

  On 08/04/2014 at 07:01, dees189227 said:

so we lose moloney to FA, rivers to FA, sylvia to FA and now we will probably lose Frawley. Wow each year we just see someone walk out. Next year Nathan Jones is out of contract, if he walks which I doubt he would I think I will just give up.

None of those players were better than average. Use the picks with better wisdom.

Turn them over till we get a bunch of hard nuts.

  On 08/04/2014 at 04:55, Fat Tony said:

We cannot let our previous bad drafting record undervalue our early picks and we shouldn't force a bad trade. Jason Taylor needn't be punished for the bad work of others.

I meant more in terms of pot luck. Every draft has stars and turkeys in the top end. For every Chris Judd, there's a Cale Morton. For every Lance Franklin, there's a Lachie Hansen. For every Nic Naitanui, there's a John Meeson.

Haha 800k, tell him he's dreamin!

He's not becoming part of the problem he's just not any good. His two turn overs in the St Kilda game cost us any chance of winning. More pathetic disposal in the Eagles game. If he can get 800 good luck to him. He's not up to it and we need to find better.

I'm pretty sure, Tom Mcdonald, Lynden Dunn and Dean Terlich are also out of contract this year

Next year, Jack Viney, Jesse Hogan, Nathan Jones and Colin Garland and Jeremy Howe all are, as are a host of less important players

  On 08/04/2014 at 07:41, Sassy said:

I'm pretty sure, Tom Mcdonald, Lynden Dunn and Dean Terlich are also out of contract this year

Next year, Jack Viney, Jesse Hogan, Nathan Jones and Colin Garland and Jeremy Howe all are, as are a host of less important players

Open the cheque books!

Clark is gone, i'd now turn to Jesse Hogan and say here is 600 k a year for 5 years

Hasn't played a game yet.

  On 08/04/2014 at 07:47, Sassy said:

Clark is gone, i'd now turn to Jesse Hogan and say here is 600 k a year for 5 years

we gotta lock him in.

Maybe its just the way he is, but often his facial expression at trainings and nab cup games express a lack of care, apparently he doesn't say much around the club.

I hope he is just a chilled dude.

I hope he hasn't already decided he's heading back home come end of 2015.

We should also target a forward from gold coast or gws if it were possible.

I like sam day. good reach.

  On 08/04/2014 at 07:56, Deez said:

we gotta lock him in.

Maybe its just the way he is, but often his facial expression at trainings and nab cup games express a lack of care, apparently he doesn't say much around the club.

I hope he is just a chilled dude.

I hope he hasn't already decided he's heading back home come end of 2015.

My friend is really good mates with him, she reckons that's just him because i thought the same thing, apparently he loves melbourne and thinks it's alot better than perth, more to do.

  On 08/04/2014 at 07:01, dees189227 said:

so we lose moloney to FA, rivers to FA, sylvia to FA and now we will probably lose Frawley. Wow each year we just see someone walk out. Next year Nathan Jones is out of contract, if he walks which I doubt he would I think I will just give up.

Don't forget that bloke who went to GWS. 25% of our team will have walked out in a couple of years.

But at least according to the AFL we don't need any help.

  On 08/04/2014 at 07:59, Sassy said:

My friend is really good mates with him, she reckons that's just him because i thought the same thing, apparently he loves melbourne and thinks it's alot better than perth, more to do.

thats fantastic news. Thanks dude.

  On 08/04/2014 at 08:03, Deez said:

thats fantastic news. Thanks dude.

doesn't mean much in terms of will he want to go to freo in the future but yeah, i suppose it's something

I think everything will even out eventually. There is a salary cap and even top sides can only afford one or two players at the highest salary levels. And so can we. It can break down however if the AFL do not keep a lid on underhanded methods and brown paper bags. I am starting to get over players like Clark and Frawley and others who for various reasons are/were on big coin but giving us minimal output in return. I crave for a switched on team where everyone plays for each other and is an integral part of the winning puzzle. We realistically cannot get any worse if we lose a couple of big earners. Others will replace them and if we can get our mojo together they will perform to their worth and be less likely to leave.

Roos isn't stupid. In the same day that Mitch retired Spud Jnr says up yours. He knows where we are at. There is a story on the homepage about a mid season player review. We need to identify who can play and who must be moved on, no more favours or free games. Spots must earned. What talent we have left must be secured and Spud Jnr should be dropped. It won't happen but I would like to see it.

I have an odd thought going through my head regarding the retirement of Mitch. It certainly isn't appropriate to bring it up in the other thread, but it is relevant here.

Now that Mitch is no longer one of our top paid players, does that move Frawley up a spot and put him in the top 25% or whatever it is meant to be? Does he now find himself a restricted free agent rather than unrestricted? He would have to have been pretty close to the line I would think, even with a front-ended contract.

  On 08/04/2014 at 09:33, RalphiusMaximus said:

I have an odd thought going through my head regarding the retirement of Mitch. It certainly isn't appropriate to bring it up in the other thread, but it is relevant here.

Now that Mitch is no longer one of our top paid players, does that move Frawley up a spot and put him in the top 25% or whatever it is meant to be? Does he now find himself a restricted free agent rather than unrestricted? He would have to have been pretty close to the line I would think, even with a front-ended contract.

that's a good point! i think Josh Mahoney said Mitch stays on our list til the end of the year technically.

  On 08/04/2014 at 09:33, RalphiusMaximus said:

I have an odd thought going through my head regarding the retirement of Mitch. It certainly isn't appropriate to bring it up in the other thread, but it is relevant here.

Now that Mitch is no longer one of our top paid players, does that move Frawley up a spot and put him in the top 25% or whatever it is meant to be? Does he now find himself a restricted free agent rather than unrestricted? He would have to have been pretty close to the line I would think, even with a front-ended contract.

an interesting thought

however it doesn't change much. if another team offers 800k we wouldn't match it

plus if he doesn't want to be here what's the point pushing it

in reality ufa = fa

Apparently compo for Frawley will be the pick after our first pick in the national draft, say we finish last, we will get pick 1 and 2. Quality tall forward and gun mid fielder...

We will have a warchest this off season. Firs 3 picks and millions on the cap. Lets get us Fye and Tex

Throw 3 years and $600,000 a year at Chip

  On 08/04/2014 at 12:35, spirit of norm smith said:

Throw 3 years and $600,000 a year at Chip

Honestly I think he's worth more if he leaves. FA band 1 compo, potentially pick 2...

He is playing like his heart isn't in it so I can't see us trying to bribe him for loyalty. He'd really need to step it up for the rest if the year.